1457: True Science

[Sashi]

Yeah, I tried to keep it lighthearted for that reason. Still, I think they're completely different situations and we're arguing different points. It's not like it was Blitzgal's fault she was molested. I just think she's fighting the wrong battles. Obviously rape is wrong and victims shouldn't be blamed. If wearing conservative clothing reduces the amount of victims by even one, however, it should be done.

[whatotherway]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

If you come across the study let me know because I'd be interested to know how they got their data. I would assume that in very restrictive cultures, fewer women are comfortable even reporting their rapes at all.

I've been trying to find it again for some time. It was written in a book I had to read when at University, 40 years ago when I was doing some course.

[FletchLives]

It was all fun and games Sashi... Methinks you fucked up now.

Originally Posted by Sashi

Yeah, I tried to keep it lighthearted for that reason. Still, I think they're completely different situations and we're arguing different points. It's not like it was Blitzgal's fault she was molested.

It's not very light-hearted to call a girl out as being molested. I think you are arguing the same situations, rape doesn't really come in varying degrees.

Originally Posted by Sashi

Obviously rape is wrong and victims shouldn't be blamed.

Well that's fucking revolutionary.

Originally Posted by Sashi

If wearing conservative clothing reduces the amount of victims by even one, however, it should be done.

Do you only wear clothes from the dollar store? Any other clothing would show that you have some amount of wealth. Obviously, you should never wear clothes with any kind of brand on them. Actually, you should throw your clothes in the dryer with some bricks. That way people will see you and won't think you have shit for them to steal.

[Sashi]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

It was all fun and games Sashi... Methinks you fucked up now.


It's not very light-hearted to call a girl out as being molested. I think you are arguing the same situations, rape doesn't really come in varying degrees.



Well that's fucking revolutionary.



Do you only wear clothes from the dollar store? Any other clothing would show that you have some amount of wealth. Obviously, you should never wear clothes with any kind of brand on them. Actually, you should throw your clothes in the dryer with some bricks. That way people will see you and won't think you have shit for them to steal.

I don't see how I'm calling anyone out on anything. It's not like I called in an investigator or something. If I know about it, she must have talk about it before. If she's worked past it enough to discuss it, it'd be a disservice to her if I purposely avoided the topic.

I don't wear brand name clothing, by the way, so I don't see where you're going with that. I actually can't afford it, though, so it's not like I'm wearing cheap clothing on purpose. Also, the point I was making was for people to not dress in a way that attracts attention. I wouldn't doubt it if homeless people get raped more than nonhomeless people, so I would not recommend wearing rags. Plus, I'm sure that's unhygenic and you were just being silly.

Also, I don't see how just picking part of what I said and making sarcastic remarks about it does anything to further the conversation. It wasn't even funny, so I don't get your point there at all.

[FletchLives]

So because you can't afford nice clothes, you don't understand how nice clothes can represent you as someone who has money..? That makes a lot of sense. Sorry that was sarcasm again, it makes no sense.
You are mixing the theft analogy with rape, which is even funnier than anything you said previous.
Please describe what ways of dressing draw attention. And please describe the coorelation between dressing provocatively and being homeless, since according to you, both raise your chances of being raped.

[lalalemon]

i do have to say, just to defend my last poll answer...keith and chemda DID talk about the leave the tent vs. not leaving the tent on a previous show. I voted based on that discussion and after listening I would have voted the same way.



And i'm fucking up this poll on purpose. HAHAHAHAHAH. fuck science.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by Sashi

Obviously rape is wrong and victims shouldn't be blamed. If wearing conservative clothing reduces the amount of victims by even one, however, it should be done.

And what is the female dress code you think that every woman should wear? Long sleeves at all times, obviously, but when you get to our bottom half there's a conundrum. Long skirts would cover our legs but provide easy access. Jeans are harder to take off (as the Italian supreme court deemed several years ago), but you can see our asses, crotches, and legs!

I got it! Oh, but if I dress this way Warren Jeffs will get me.

[HeyAnne]

Rape is a crime of violence. Not of crime of I couldn't help myself cause that girl was dressed like a slut.

[Sashi]

Now you're just being silly. It's not like it's a line where you get raped on one side and you're perfectly fine on the other. It's obviously going to be a spectrum. If you honestly can't tell, on a general level, what's more likely to attract attention, then there's really no point in this discussion. I'm not saying to wear sheet with eyeholes cut out. I'm saying to not have only bandaids over your privates.

EDIT: By the way, regarding this:

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

So yeah, when I hear the smugness of some guys who have this attitude that if women just follow these "common sense" rules of conduct we'll be safe, I get pissed. If there really was a fool proof tactic to avoid rape, you can be sure that women would've figured it out by now.

I've said many times that dress is definitely not the only factor and that I'm not saying that dressing a certain way will prevent rape.

[dEadERest]

broke the tie at 92 votes