1598: FREE SODA

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by DrGiggles

Oh no, that's right, the government wouldn't go THAT far. It's not like they're telling you what size of soda you can buy. Obviously that would be crazy. How about violent video games then; the government has been trying to ban those for years. And let's not forget a 32oz soda is packed full of ice, so it's closer to 16-20oz of actual soda. A 16oz cup with ice is less than a can of soda.

Keith mentioned later in this episode that it's not like we're going to go from a soda ban to loosing free speech. The government has already successfully limited free speech in a lot ways; in many places you have to apply for a government protest permit in order to have a free speech rally- even if the very thing you're protesting is the government. Ever heard of "free speech zones?" That's when the government says you can't have free speech unless you're standing in a secluded cordoned off area; who cares what the constitution says.

The most egregious example of government overreach is the national defense authorization act. Remember when the constitution guarantees the right to due process, a speedy trial, and that persons accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty? Well that act authorizes indefinite jail time without charges, and without a trial, even if you're an American citizen. The soda ban is simply one more example of the cancer our government has become. Liberty does die slowly, and even fat people have rights. But please, continue on in ignorance since it hasn't affected your life... yet. Unless of course you find yourself really thirsty one day.


Who's the idiot? You're comparing a soda ban to military action against a genocidal dictator! It's not even an example of social change, and has nothing to do with the United States. Furthermore, Kony is in hiding and hasn't been terrorizing anyone for many years- something those poor, helpless people managed to accomplish without us. What a great reason to continue adding to the US deficit. Which is 15.7 trillion dollars by the way; look how much we as a large entity can "achieve!"

a. They're not telling you what size of soda you can buy. They're regulating vendors. It's not against the rules to buy any sized soda. It's simply against the rules for certain vendors to sell large sugared sodas. Some vendors can't sell alcohol. Some can't sell certain types of food.

Even if that was the case, it'd still be a net social good, but you can't even get this regulation right.

b. The government has moved to block the sale of violent video games to minors, and as a result a strong self-enforcing mechanism within the industry has done a lot of work to ensure that kids don't get their hands on said games, barring parental neglect.

How is that a bad thing?

c. What does this have to do with freedom of speech? This is pure slippery slope garbage.

d. Yeah, the big problem with government is definitely that Americans don't have access to soda.

If you measured the success of government by how much access its citizens had to sugared soda, the US has the best government in the history of the world. But yeah, our liberty is in such danger because I can't by a barrel of soda at McDonald's. That's definitely the beginning of Farenheit 451 right there.

Sorry, but your logic doesn't make any sense. The degree to which you're criticizing government intervention here makes me beg the question: what governmental regulation, if any, is valid?

e. Deficit hawking is a silly exercise in general, but it's particularly dumb with respect to Kony, seeing as our support there is ludicrously inexpensive.

[Keith]

Also you're a dickhead.

[dangerous]

if you are just trying to get rid of fat fucks then instead of banning shit just legalize meth. never seen a fat crack head.

[Powerhouse]

You want good soda to drink is the mexican coke, that shit tastes good nice and carbonated. The only coke to snort is the pervuvian flake. Me living in Calif. I get the same stuff all the hollywood fudge packers snort it's a plus that I have connects. I'm somewhat in the business working on the finacing for a movie.

[PaulB]

A UK article but on point I think.

Why Our Food Is Making Us Fat


New member (obviously) and relatively new to the show. Keep up the great work KATG!

[BrianAlt]

Originally Posted by PaulB

A UK article but on point I think.

Why Our Food Is Making Us Fat

This is a good article. So it's all Nixon's fault?

And fuck you, and all that too.