178: Find Keith a Job

LD · 11-24-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Dave

Do you mean the cartoon? That indian chick was hot!

all Disney chicks are hot! It teaches young girls that they have to look like that when they grow up and not like fat blobs, which benefits guys and lesbians everywhere.

Thanks be to Walt.

Robinmx · 11-24-2005, 07:11 PM

What's up with people complaining about the "how to kill a Baby show"? c'mon it was a good show!!
By the way i had a job inteview this afternoon and i was trying not to laugh thinking about what Keith said, and remembering the stand up routine at the end of the show hahaha it was funny!
other thing about going to ask 4 a job is that they make u like the most exhausting test what is the correct answer for "how am I Feeling 2day"? of course i'm gonna say "i'm ok" c'mon seriously!!!!
One question..can i say the "n" word in front of black people? (i'm mexican and now we've outnumbered black people in some parts of the states) hahaha
I'really enjoy the show c'ya

Bass Dave · 11-24-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LD

all Disney chicks are hot!

I'm not sure about the Little Mermaid - what with that fish tail and all. Do you think she'd smell extra fishy down there?

Maybe eels in the ass is not such a big deal if you're a mermaid.

Bass Dave · 11-24-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Dave

Do you think she'd smell extra fishy down there?

...as opposed to the chick from Mulan who, according to Keith, would be the sweetest.

germuhknee · 11-25-2005, 02:36 AM

And what was up with the hate on Patrice? She is performing a service that society has demanded since the dawn of civilization. And she is offering it a manner that is a hell of a lot safer and more dignified for all parties involved than is often the case. It is hypocritical to suggest that if people like Patrice didn't do what they do that prostitution would go away. She is helping these women, who come to her of their own free will, to gain control and not be exploited.

LD · 11-25-2005, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bass Dave

I'm not sure about the Little Mermaid - what with that fish tail and all. Do you think she'd smell extra fishy down there?

Maybe eels in the ass is not such a big deal if you're a mermaid.

Love will always find a way. Even with a fishy tail. See the movie The Mermaid in the Manhole for a heartfelt study of the bond between man and fish woman.

Forget Splash. That's just balls.

HighMike · 11-25-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by germuhknee

And what was up with the hate on Patrice? She is performing a service that society has demanded since the dawn of civilization. And she is offering it a manner that is a hell of a lot safer and more dignified for all parties involved than is often the case. It is hypocritical to suggest that if people like Patrice didn't do what they do that prostitution would go away. She is helping these women, who come to her of their own free will, to gain control and not be exploited.

It is true that many women engage in prostitiution rings via free will but you should also note that for the Majority of women it isnt the case. Those shows on HBO about the prostitution rings are FAR FROM representing the reality of it. It's not some cute sex parlor where women have the endless urge to suck and fuck a penis of a stranger that is most likely a cast off from society. Movies represent prostitution as though its some magical thing, usually a guy bones a girl for 5min, she collects money or gets the shit slapped outta her and then she moves on to the next 60yr old guy. To think its safe is insane, a lot of women are forced into prostitution because they desperatly need money. This means no drug tests, most of the time no condoms, and fucking in ally or some sleezy motel 8 cant be all that healthy.
When you think of prostitution think Monster as opposed to Hugh Heffner.

Alright Im gonna go get high, and all this talk about women...mmmm prostitutes...mmmm KY.. Gimme 2min

AlanRay · 11-25-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HighMike

It is true that many women engage in prostitiution rings via free will but you should also note that for the Majority of women it isnt the case. Those shows on HBO about the prostitution rings are FAR FROM representing the reality of it. It's not some cute sex parlor where women have the endless urge to suck and fuck a penis of a stranger that is most likely a cast off from society. Movies represent prostitution as though its some magical thing, usually a guy bones a girl for 5min, she collects money or gets the shit slapped outta her and then she moves on to the next 60yr old guy. To think its safe is insane, a lot of women are forced into prostitution because they desperatly need money. This means no drug tests, most of the time no condoms, and fucking in ally or some sleezy motel 8 cant be all that healthy.
When you think of prostitution think Monster as opposed to Hugh Heffner.

Alright Im gonna go get high, and all this talk about women...mmmm prostitutes...mmmm KY.. Gimme 2min

the point is that the business patrice is in is not simple prostitution..... oh, and 2 minutes? i'm sorry.

soneil · 11-25-2005, 09:01 AM

I wrote in about Patrice on the How To Kill A Baby show not because it was a bad show and certainly not because I dislike Patrice. I thought it was a great show--fascinating, out there--but it also seemed unbalanced to me. When you have three presenters on the mic and not one of them is offering an opposing view, it paints a very narrow picture. I mostly just wanted to represent that opposing view and also wind them up a bit.

Keith and Chemda can be a couple of knuckleheads sometimes and I hope they'd be the first to admit it. The most valid question that could've been asked during the Baby show was: why is Patrice involved in this? She's not just an observer reporting back to us, she is a participant so it's a valid question.

I'm not against prostitution, I know it exists and it's not going to go away. But it's not something I wish on others and it's certainly not something I would glamourise. I'm an American abroad, I live in the UK where there has been a dialogue over the last several years about legalising prostitution and I'm all for it--I am absolutely an advocate for the rights of sex workers. The US has a 10 billion dollar a year porn industry--I don't know the numbers on prostitution--but, hey, it is a capitalist, free market and a huge demand has been demonstrated. Morality doesn't enter into it. But these supposedly democratic governments do these workers a disservice by not legalising their trade and empowering the workers. It should be legalised and regulated, end of story.

As for the act itself, let's not pretend this isn't a soul-destroying line of work. During the 8 or so years I spent waiting tables in my '20's, no matter how much I hated it, no matter how much I despised the guests on certain days, I never had to go to work and have somebody stick their cock up my ass. I never had to blow anybody or wipe their cum off my face. No matter what you think you go through on a daily basis at your job or 9 to 5, you don't know what it's like to take that kind of indiscriminate pounding. You're not renting out your body parts.

And believe me, when I was younger (I'm 39 now), struggling to pay the rent and pursue my artistic ambitions, I had several offers from men wanting me to prostitute myself. As well as many, many indirect offers from men who basically wanted me to prostitute myself by being kept--in relationships, it's easy to fall into a prostitution dynamic. There's no end of people willing to take advantage of the young and financially unstable. Sex as currency is nothing new. But I didn't sell myself on the cheap.

I also had a friend who was a booker for her friend's agency in Milwaukee and Chicago--very similar to what Patrice does--and I hung out with those girls on a couple of occasions. I've been there in a bar having a good time with a group of girls when the cell phone rings and one them has to get up and go do a job--I've seen the way they steel themselves for the task at hand and I've seen them when they return. And believe me, no matter how much you dress it up, how elite or clean you think you make it, it ain't no fuckin' cake walk. And the truth is, they are being lied to, they are lying to themselves, lying to their clients and they are lying to you, not to mention all the other untruths they tell in their life to maintain a cover. You'd be a fool to think all that dishonesty doesn't take a toll on a person, aside from all the other emotional and physical hazards involved. (It's also amazing how little the trade has changed since then, based on my knowledge and Patrice's description, though I guess they make sandwiches now.)

I love Chemda because she's so talented and so liberal minded but I think she's being a little naive on this count. She's young, there's nothing wrong with that. But everybody is somebody's baby, Chemda, when they're 2, 3, 12, 18, 43--you're always somebody's child. You can cheer prostitution and see it as some empowered transaction between two consenting adults (which isn't always strictly the case) but be serious: if and when you have children and your 18 y.o. daughter wants the new Xbox are you going to tell her to get on the phone to Auntie Patrice and earn her own money? Because if it's all right for somebody else's baby, it would have to be all right for yours.

And what about Patrice? If she's so proud, would she introduce herself to her employee's parents as, "Hi, I'm Patrice. I'm the woman that hired your daughter to be a whore. Yeah, that's right, I do the booking and run the credit cards--I do get my cut--but don't worry, we're really looking out for her, that's why we send her out to get fucked five times a night. It's perfectly safe, she just gets tears in her anal lining now and again. Well, that and she's now completely emotionally numb. But you should see my house." As Patrice proved on the show, she doesn't just book, she doesn't just run credit cards, she's pretty much a Madam. And as for sex slaves, she stopped just short of sticking her fingers in Chemda's mouth to check her teeth during the mock interview so, I'm surprised Chemda failed to see it as an analogous situation. Listen to the show again, Chemda.

And as for Keith, if Chemda thinks his current work situation is so dire that it would be appropriate to consider the great and rewarding profession of prostitution, what's stopping him? Plenty of men are prostitutes, he doesn't have to be a woman. No offence to Keith but even in a worst case scenario, the world is a pretty sick place--I'm sure there must be some ladies who would part with cold hard cash to be fucked by a clown. I'd wager it's probably already a pretty competitive market. And failing that, he could always be gay for pay--what's the difference if it's only for money? It's just a job. Must be nice to have your girlfriend advocating prostitution as a potential money making opportunity. And I'm sure it wouldn't take any toll on your relationship either--because prostitutes probably have very engaging social lives, right Chemda? No occupational hazards there.

I think you're both a little naive on the topic of prostitution. Sex as currency, sex as a weapon--it's all very dangerous stuff. No matter how many salt shakers you have to fill to pay the bills, at least you didn't fuck for money. At least your not some professional cum dump.

And as for Patrice, my only point is that she can do better. She's talented, intelligent, ambitious, not without her charms...what's she doing this for? That's the question you should put to Patrice.

But offence? None taken and certainly none intended. I love the show, in general, and How To Kill A Baby was a great show, a great piece of independently-minded broadcasting--one of the reasons why I'm so drawn to your show and to podcasting. My favourite bit of the show was the way every time Patrice described the protocol of prostitution, Chemda would say, "...just like clowns!" And then sure enough, when you read back some of the responses, the darling Chemda said, "...I wish someone would get pissed off about the people pimping us out as clowns!!" That cracked me up.

And btw, as for rich white men getting laid, Keith--you're no Dick Cheney.

Cheers and best regards.

S.O.

germuhknee · 11-25-2005, 10:49 AM

Nah, it's a refreshing change to have some people who can reed and rite on this board.

By the way, "buddy" is a she, methinks. (I know this because I read her whole post. Only took 1/2 an hour.)

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Originally Posted by HighMike

Sorry buddy but your post is WAY to long .

11-24-2005, 07:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
Robinmx Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 20	U Guys!! What's up with people complaining about the "how to kill a Baby show"? c'mon it was a good show!! By the way i had a job inteview this afternoon and i was trying not to laugh thinking about what Keith said, and remembering the stand up routine at the end of the show hahaha it was funny! other thing about going to ask 4 a job is that they make u like the most exhausting test what is the correct answer for "how am I Feeling 2day"? of course i'm gonna say "i'm ok" c'mon seriously!!!! One question..can i say the "n" word in front of black people? (i'm mexican and now we've outnumbered black people in some parts of the states) hahaha I'really enjoy the show c'ya
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11-25-2005, 02:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
germuhknee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 687	And what was up with the hate on Patrice? She is performing a service that society has demanded since the dawn of civilization. And she is offering it a manner that is a hell of a lot safer and more dignified for all parties involved than is often the case. It is hypocritical to suggest that if people like Patrice didn't do what they do that prostitution would go away. She is helping these women, who come to her of their own free will, to gain control and not be exploited.
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11-25-2005, 09:01 AM	#29 (permalink)
soneil Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 26	I wrote in about Patrice on the How To Kill A Baby show not because it was a bad show and certainly not because I dislike Patrice. I thought it was a great show--fascinating, out there--but it also seemed unbalanced to me. When you have three presenters on the mic and not one of them is offering an opposing view, it paints a very narrow picture. I mostly just wanted to represent that opposing view and also wind them up a bit. Keith and Chemda can be a couple of knuckleheads sometimes and I hope they'd be the first to admit it. The most valid question that could've been asked during the Baby show was: why is Patrice involved in this? She's not just an observer reporting back to us, she is a participant so it's a valid question. I'm not against prostitution, I know it exists and it's not going to go away. But it's not something I wish on others and it's certainly not something I would glamourise. I'm an American abroad, I live in the UK where there has been a dialogue over the last several years about legalising prostitution and I'm all for it--I am absolutely an advocate for the rights of sex workers. The US has a 10 billion dollar a year porn industry--I don't know the numbers on prostitution--but, hey, it is a capitalist, free market and a huge demand has been demonstrated. Morality doesn't enter into it. But these supposedly democratic governments do these workers a disservice by not legalising their trade and empowering the workers. It should be legalised and regulated, end of story. As for the act itself, let's not pretend this isn't a soul-destroying line of work. During the 8 or so years I spent waiting tables in my '20's, no matter how much I hated it, no matter how much I despised the guests on certain days, I never had to go to work and have somebody stick their cock up my ass. I never had to blow anybody or wipe their cum off my face. No matter what you think you go through on a daily basis at your job or 9 to 5, you don't know what it's like to take that kind of indiscriminate pounding. You're not renting out your body parts. And believe me, when I was younger (I'm 39 now), struggling to pay the rent and pursue my artistic ambitions, I had several offers from men wanting me to prostitute myself. As well as many, many indirect offers from men who basically wanted me to prostitute myself by being kept--in relationships, it's easy to fall into a prostitution dynamic. There's no end of people willing to take advantage of the young and financially unstable. Sex as currency is nothing new. But I didn't sell myself on the cheap. I also had a friend who was a booker for her friend's agency in Milwaukee and Chicago--very similar to what Patrice does--and I hung out with those girls on a couple of occasions. I've been there in a bar having a good time with a group of girls when the cell phone rings and one them has to get up and go do a job--I've seen the way they steel themselves for the task at hand and I've seen them when they return. And believe me, no matter how much you dress it up, how elite or clean you think you make it, it ain't no fuckin' cake walk. And the truth is, they are being lied to, they are lying to themselves, lying to their clients and they are lying to you, not to mention all the other untruths they tell in their life to maintain a cover. You'd be a fool to think all that dishonesty doesn't take a toll on a person, aside from all the other emotional and physical hazards involved. (It's also amazing how little the trade has changed since then, based on my knowledge and Patrice's description, though I guess they make sandwiches now.) I love Chemda because she's so talented and so liberal minded but I think she's being a little naive on this count. She's young, there's nothing wrong with that. But everybody is somebody's baby, Chemda, when they're 2, 3, 12, 18, 43--you're always somebody's child. You can cheer prostitution and see it as some empowered transaction between two consenting adults (which isn't always strictly the case) but be serious: if and when you have children and your 18 y.o. daughter wants the new Xbox are you going to tell her to get on the phone to Auntie Patrice and earn her own money? Because if it's all right for somebody else's baby, it would have to be all right for yours. And what about Patrice? If she's so proud, would she introduce herself to her employee's parents as, "Hi, I'm Patrice. I'm the woman that hired your daughter to be a whore. Yeah, that's right, I do the booking and run the credit cards--I do get my cut--but don't worry, we're really looking out for her, that's why we send her out to get fucked five times a night. It's perfectly safe, she just gets tears in her anal lining now and again. Well, that and she's now completely emotionally numb. But you should see my house." As Patrice proved on the show, she doesn't just book, she doesn't just run credit cards, she's pretty much a Madam. And as for sex slaves, she stopped just short of sticking her fingers in Chemda's mouth to check her teeth during the mock interview so, I'm surprised Chemda failed to see it as an analogous situation. Listen to the show again, Chemda. And as for Keith, if Chemda thinks his current work situation is so dire that it would be appropriate to consider the great and rewarding profession of prostitution, what's stopping him? Plenty of men are prostitutes, he doesn't have to be a woman. No offence to Keith but even in a worst case scenario, the world is a pretty sick place--I'm sure there must be some ladies who would part with cold hard cash to be fucked by a clown. I'd wager it's probably already a pretty competitive market. And failing that, he could always be gay for pay--what's the difference if it's only for money? It's just a job. Must be nice to have your girlfriend advocating prostitution as a potential money making opportunity. And I'm sure it wouldn't take any toll on your relationship either--because prostitutes probably have very engaging social lives, right Chemda? No occupational hazards there. I think you're both a little naive on the topic of prostitution. Sex as currency, sex as a weapon--it's all very dangerous stuff. No matter how many salt shakers you have to fill to pay the bills, at least you didn't fuck for money. At least your not some professional cum dump. And as for Patrice, my only point is that she can do better. She's talented, intelligent, ambitious, not without her charms...what's she doing this for? That's the question you should put to Patrice. But offence? None taken and certainly none intended. I love the show, in general, and How To Kill A Baby was a great show, a great piece of independently-minded broadcasting--one of the reasons why I'm so drawn to your show and to podcasting. My favourite bit of the show was the way every time Patrice described the protocol of prostitution, Chemda would say, "...just like clowns!" And then sure enough, when you read back some of the responses, the darling Chemda said, "...I wish someone would get pissed off about the people pimping us out as clowns!!" That cracked me up. And btw, as for rich white men getting laid, Keith--you're no Dick Cheney. Cheers and best regards. S.O.
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