1982: Keep It Clean

[Scumhook]

Originally Posted by WSEIII

I'm not in a relationship

Well there's a shock.

Originally Posted by WSEIII

my areas at home

lol basement

[Keith]

Just clean your fuckin' room already...

[bithead]

My wife and I both like things tidy, but hate cleaning so we pay a service to come every 2 weeks. We do the minimal possible amount of cleaning in-between, but you'd find us tidying literally every day. Between having 2 kids under the age of 15, and a young dog, I can't imagine what our place would be like without constantly putting things back where they're supposed to be.

Being with someone who is your cleaning/tidying OPPOSITE sounds exhausting.

[J. Canines]

Originally Posted by WSEIII

...I'd rather overlook some clutter than be a neat freak.

WTF Bill

I thought "Cleanliness was close to Godliness"

[Jmsmittyroad]

I like things clean but have two teenage kids at home. It's like shoveling while it's snowing.

[Larion]

Originally Posted by Jmsmittyroad

I like things clean but have two teenage kids at home. It's like shoveling while it's snowing.

Beat em.

[thirteen]

I'm completely with Keith and JoAnna about cleanliness. Luckily I'm with someone who cleans just as much as I do.

Once in a while I still wish he came with a hairless cat instead of one with a shitload of hair, but I'm slowly getting used to it. He gets brushed more often. Pets are nerve-wracking, particularly if you have allergies and dirtiness is contributing factor. People with animals have to work harder to keep their place clean.

Like Keith said, compromise doesn't really make sense in this situation. You either want things to be tidy or you just don't give a shit. You can spend an entire weekend cleaning because you didn't bother to do a little bit each day. Leaving the dirt and dust around doesn't make it better. It leads to more anxiety. Or, if you're an animal/person who doesn't care, it leads to a filthy place that no one except you wants to live in and visit.

[starscream]

I've lived with enough people at this point to know people are just gross by default. Entropy rules.

Cleaning up after them is thankless and should be. Letting it go and hoping they get fed up enough to do something themselves is a hopeless endeavor. They will never notice either way. They don't not care about things being dirty or cluttered or whatever, they don't think about it at all and that's frustrating and enviable. Being the clean one is the worst. No one will ever get it or even try.

[Larion]

Honestly in a relationship I am pretty clean because I don't want to be annoying. Like how Keith says he gets in better shape when in a relationship than before; I sort of act off of that same principle, just be better for your partner. At the very least maintain what you presented in the first place. I don't know a guy, I don't care how slovenly he is, that doesn't clean up his place the first time a girl is coming over. Not to say those guys don't exist because I'm sure they do but generally speaking you present your best face and that is what you are expected to maintain. What's your argument going to be? Clothes SHOULD be scattered all around the bed? Dishes SHOULD have food on them stacked in the sink? The cleanlier person is just right on this one. Again I liken it to maintaining your physical appearance; you came in at 150 no way I should expect you to just balloon up to 190. Go to the gym. Watch what you eat. Worst case scenario you maintain your body I met you in, best case you improve it and who is going to complain about that? Put the iPad on the nightstand Kat smh.

[flerchin]

FFS. Cat is awesome. Keith is so fucking lucky. This cleaning thing is like complaining that your gold coins are too heavy. You have gold.

WRT to the parents giving their adult kids keys; I find it funny to hear people without kids being perplexed by the behavior of parents that love their kids. I know Keith has a taste of this with Hugsy. Imagine your love and pride in Hugsy x1000. Now imagine that you haven't seen Hugsy in weeks, and that you would do anything to have her pop in while she's in the neighborhood. That's why you give her the key, and odds are, you probably won't be fucking or masturbating when she pops in. If she does, you still get to see Hugsy, the best dog in the world, after you shut off the porn.

Also, if you don't want to see your parent masturbating, maybe knock when you stop home with the key they gave you because they love you so much that they don't care.