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View Poll Results: Whose side did you find yourself on re: honesty in biopics?
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Old 08-18-2015, 01:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok. One last thing and I'll shut up about this.


The movie used Ice Cube's son to play Cube. This guy is no actor. He's just some guy. The son of NWA.

Eazy E wasn't married, but his GF had a son. Called Lil Easy E. Good looking dude. Capable. Looks like E. Why not put him in the movie? Why not show love to the kid of the guy who was an integral part of making NWA happen? I mean, they made it happen for Cube's kid.

The only reason the movie probably didn't take a big shit on E was that the poor bastard died of AIDs. Marketing knew they couldn't be real because it would be offensive.

As if the group didn't embrace controversy
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think Keith is right - the care test is the right test for a biopic:

Would I see Schindler's list if it was a made up story? Yes. I didn't really know much about or care much about Schindler. So go ahead Spielburg, if you need to make him a better human being than he actually was for the sake of good movie go for it. So art trumps accuracy.

(Schindler's list is based on a novel - not a factual biography)

Would I see Downfall if it was a made up story? No way. I don't care for Hitler, there I said it. But as its a real story, and true to life, its a way to experience what it was actually like in the Bunker. Now if they wanted to sauce it up by having Hitler eating live babies - I'd be out. (Probably. baby eating hitler?, yeah, yeah I'd be out)

So Goodfellas and Raging Bull - I don't know these guys, sure make shit up.

The Doors, Lawrence of Arabia, Malcolm X - stick to the truth.

Straight out of Compton:

Why would I go to see straight out of Compton? Because its about some people I care about doing things I remember and care about.

Who is this movie about? Some fictional characters who kind of look like those people, and do some things like them and have their name. I don't know them and I don't care about them. And I don't care about some fictional "rapper makes good" story.

On the other hand - everything that Dre and Ice cube has done has been lies and propaganda (they were never the ganstas they portray in their songs). So maybe by being a load of bullshit, this movie is more truthful than an accurate movie ever could be. I just blew my own mind.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Keith is not alone in being upset at the lies and omissions of this movie
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:55 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Hollyweird, right?
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Old 08-19-2015, 08:15 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I can't even stand to watch many of the documentaries because they aren't truthful enough. A sign that it isn't being truthful is if it tries to make you cry.
I've come to expect everything that isn't specifically a literal documentary to lie. embelish and leave shit out. If they aren't interviewing people who were at the event or showing articles I know they are just selling a movie ticket, not trying to educate.

Last year's movie about Alan Turring and WW2, full of lies and rearranged events to make us feel worse for this closeted genius; the award winning movie about Richard Hawking's life, ditto. Every movie about Anne Frank, mostly lies and assumptions. Some of them have a little blurb in the beginning saying, in a coy way, that not everything is factual. Just gotta hope people don't take it for gospel
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I've come to expect everything that isn't specifically a literal documentary to lie. embelish and leave shit out. If they aren't interviewing people who were at the event or showing articles I know they are just selling a movie ticket, not trying to educate.

Last year's movie about Alan Turring and WW2, full of lies and rearranged events to make us feel worse for this closeted genius; the award winning movie about Richard Hawking's life, ditto. Every movie about Anne Frank, mostly lies and assumptions. Some of them have a little blurb in the beginning saying, in a coy way, that not everything is factual. Just gotta hope people don't take it for gospel
Even documentaries can and often are highly subjective. I would hope they don't invent new scenes in a "real" documentary but sometimes what you leave out of a film is important and can change the message.
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Old 08-20-2015, 03:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm a bit late on shows so last night I was catching up. I just had a day long text message fight with my husband (over nothing, as it often is) and was exhausted. Went to bed, put on my earbuds and started stifling uncontrollable laughter at Keith's rants.

My husband thought I was crying, hugged me and we made up.

Thanks, Kool and The Gang!

(seriously, Keith is just stupid hilarious but this episode was off the charts stupid fun)
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:39 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Still D.R.E Lyrics from the Album Chronic 2001

"....but sometimes
The business end of this shit can turn your friends against you
But you was a real nigga, I could sense it in you
I still remember the window of the car that you went through
That's fucked up, but I'll never forget the shit we been through
And I'mma do whatever it takes to convince you
Cause you my nigga Doc, and Eazy I'm still wit'chu
Fuck the beef, nigga I miss you, and that's just being real wit'chu
..."

Not saying they were best buds and lovey dovey but Dre at least seamed remorseful in '01 and not at the Dre Day levels of hate like back in '92

Dre Day Lyrics from the Album the Chronic ~1992


"....Yeah, Mista Busta, where the fuck ya at?
Can't scrap a lick, so I know ya got your gat
Your dick on hard, from fuckin your road dogs
The hood you threw up with, niggaz you grew up with
Don't even respect your ass
That's why it's time for the doctor, to check your ass, nigga
Used to be my homey, used to be my ace
Now I wanna slap the taste out yo mouth..."
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Eric Wright was always my favorite.

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Old 08-20-2015, 10:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Damn this is addictive... watching all the videos on the Eazy E Youtube page and finding out about "ol' beefs" they didn't show.



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