2360: Only in New York

[MichaelApproved]

Originally Posted by Lord of the Cock Rings

To people who worry about in-person voter fraud, I always have one answer about how we can stop that without the need for voter ID.

I love this idea because it also advertises to fellow citizens that it's voting day and calls out the people who haven't voted.

[Lanfear]

Okay that sounds snarky but it's 1:30 am and I had quite a bit of wine tonight ... How the fuck does your country even run?

How do you collect taxes if you don't know who / where a person is? And if you can identify somebody for taxes but not for voting?

Could I just walk into a polling place in 2 weeks and vote in the primaries? I should book my next vacation around that just to fuck with your system. There were these coin toss primaries right?
Didn't Jeb spent thousands of dollars on each vote? I can get a flight to the US & a hotel for much cheaper - politicians should just start flying in young backpackers from Europe to vote for them. Win - win

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by MichaelApproved

To commit in-person voter fraud with paper ballots, you'd need to pick ONE target name in each polling place (you can't risk standing in line twice at the same place) and hope that the person has not/will not vote that day.

If the person has already voted, you're fucked because you're trying to vote when that person has already been marked down as voting. If the person tries to vote after you already voted in their name, you'll raise a flag to the fraud.

What happens if a red flag is raised after you've already voted? To be honest, I don't know. The point is, it's difficult to do this undetected and we have found only a hand full of suspected fraudulent voting attempts over the last 2 decades. It simply doesn't happen.

Ok so they have a list of people allowed to vote in each place?
That makes a little more sense.

How do I get on the list for being allowed to vote though?
Can you and Marisela and Cat sign me up because I don't need ID?
You do need to register to vote right? So by registering first you know your name will be on the list? So there is no danger of somebody using your fake name?

As I said I'm confused
I do get that it's logistically unreasonable but that is a terrible argument.

[Sparrow]

the old lady in front has a list of everyone registered to vote in that polling place. you check in. they check you off.

[My Sweaty Balls]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

Okay that sounds snarky but it's 1:30 am and I had quite a bit of wine tonight ... How the fuck does your country even run?

How do you collect taxes if you don't know who / where a person is? And if you can identify somebody for taxes but not for voting?

Could I just walk into a polling place in 2 weeks and vote in the primaries? I should book my next vacation around that just to fuck with your system. There were these coin toss primaries right?
Didn't Jeb spent thousands of dollars on each vote? I can get a flight to the US & a hotel for much cheaper - politicians should just start flying in young backpackers from Europe to vote for them. Win - win

Germans huh?

German governance is like an Oompah music.

American governance is like jazz - with a federal jazz band that is playing one song and each of the state governments playing their own songs, and the city governments have their own songs, and they all do their best to make sure they do not align with each other.

But when you listen to that music it somehow comes together ... and thats how dubstep was invented.

Hope this helped.

On a serious note, there is good reasons why information doesn't not flow between various arms of the the government and arms of the public service. The more the government knows bout you the more they can use that information against the populace.

I would have thought Germany would be the one place where that would be fought against.

It seems that American's do not trust their government for no apparent reason, and German's do trust their government when there is very good reason not to.

[WittyReference]

Best poll ever.

[Lanfear]

Awwwww we are talking about Hitler already and it's only the first page - fun!

[FingerLakes]

Thank goodness for Chemda being born and raised in New York. I like Carolyn, saw her in Union Hall before, but god is she living in a magical bubble. No nannies in Park Slope?! Kids in NYC are sweeter than kids in the country? Must be nice to live in that universe. We may not be huffing spray paint or shooting cans with a bb gun in the backyard but folks in the country probably aren't selling crack in middle school or shooting bottles with a pistol to get better aim to shoot people.

Ehh
/rant

[MichaelApproved]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

Ok so they have a list of people allowed to vote in each place?
That makes a little more sense.

How do I get on the list for being allowed to vote though?
Can you and Marisela and Cat sign me up because I don't need ID?
You do need to register to vote right? So by registering first you know your name will be on the list? So there is no danger of somebody using your fake name?

As I said I'm confused
I do get that it's logistically unreasonable but that is a terrible argument.

When you register, you put in some private information, so the gov't can verify you are truly a citizen and are the person you claim to be.

Get this, though. This is how absurd the voter ID laws are. Voter information is public record (except for some private stuff) and yet in-person fraud does not happen. You can literally get a list of people who are registered to vote in your area with all the info you need to vote on their behalf but in-person fraud doesn't happen because it's so difficult to pull off.

Requiring ID to vote disenfranchises millions while protecting against an imaginary crime. It's complete bullshit.

[dr.chode]

.......did anyone else hear the title of this show in their head said in Cindy Adams cigarette voice?