2425: Hard Right

[Keith]

Too late. You just made a Hitler.

[Newsy]

Originally Posted by Keith

Too late. You just made a Hitler.

Can't wait to go back in time and shoot you for writing bad checks Hitler.

[Mermaid]

White people never seem to understand how emotionally draining their bullshit is.

Thank God for Chemda on the show. She's the only saving grace some days.

[Newsy]

Originally Posted by Newsy

Where the fuck you at dude? Fuck your job, come here and respond. Tell me why it's more important that I admit that outside of this situation he's a shitty dude. Come back and argue that some more you piece of garbage.

Let's go bitch! Type faster faggot!

[Eric M]

Originally Posted by Newsy

Hey white man, shut your fucking mouth.

Originally Posted by Newsy

Where the fuck you at dude? Fuck your job, come here and respond. Tell me why it's more important that I admit that outside of this situation he's a shitty dude. Come back and argue that some more you piece of garbage.

Alright racist, which one is it? Should I shut my mouth or do you want a response? I said he didn't deserve to die. No one doing what he was doing does. Bringing up a fact shouldn't fucking bother you this much. You give conservatives a pass to call you stupid by sticking your head in the sand ignoring facts like a fucking child.

I'm on your fucking side. I've went and held signs and marched down in Miami for your cause. I'm fully on board with black lives matter. I voted for the candidate who might have fucking done something about it too. Acknowledging that he wasn't a fully innocent dude doesn't mean I think he should've died. It doesn't help or hurt your cause to point out this fact, but conservatives will try and use it against you and you better have something better to argue with than "shut your fucking mouth white man" if you want to get anywhere.

[Sparrow]

his record isn't pertinent. there were also many other facts about him: his favorite color, his grades, what kind of music he liked, how many butterflies he caught in a lifetime, his video game scores. why /this/ fact, other than to assassinate his character?

last time i checked, the facts of a citizens' prior record isn't a reason to use deadly force.

[Sparrow]

are perfect angels the only among us worthy of a guarantee they won't die in police custody?

[Eric M]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

his record isn't pertinent. there were also many other facts about him: his favorite color, his grades, what kind of music he liked, how many butterflies he caught in a lifetime, his video game scores. why /this/ fact, other than to assassinate his character?

last time i checked, the facts of a citizens' prior record isn't a reason to use deadly force.

That is absolutely true. I'm not even saying that it is necessary to put any facts out. But what you have to understand is that their are people on the evil side of this thing who can and always will look for the dirt to point out.

Keith has always leaned a little bit conservatively. So it doesn't surprise me in the least that he would point this out and of course try and throw in a little funny. There are people bringing this up with absolutely terrible intent too. If it's a fact, it's a fact. And you have to acknowledge it and keep your argument strong. Saying "well don't even bring that up" isn't going to get you anywhere in a real debate.

[Sparrow]

encouraging the elimination of extraneous facts from an argument seems fine to me. it muddies the discourse.

are you one of those people pointing out the dirt? if it is dirt and the people shining the light on it are of questionable character, why join in and dismiss upset?

[Eric M]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

encouraging the elimination of extraneous facts from an argument seems fine to me. it muddies the discourse.

are you one of those people pointing out the dirt? if it is dirt and the people shining the light on it are of questionable character, why join in and dismiss upset?

I didn't point anything out. But I did hear about it before the show. And ultimately being on Chemda's side, I just want her to represent it better. I guess that might be asking too much of her. It's just frustrating because if the goal is to change minds, saying "no no why even bring that up?" is right around the point where a conservative thinker dismisses you entirely, just like you would to them for not acknowledging facts.