2463: Safe Space

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

Ok.

So.... how does this apply to Safe Space? I'm still confused. Does Safe Space prevent people like Trump from speaking at campuses? Is it for people who are getting bullied?

You didn't read and think about what he wrote.

He explained it.

My gravy. Are you trying?

"What IS a safe space?" GUESS!!!

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by Keith

My gravy. Are you trying?

"What IS a safe space?" GUESS!!!

I'M NOT FEELING SAFE RIGHT NOW KEITH

[jbliss]

Again, let's all stipulate that this discussion is not about bigots, etc being brought to campus to speak. (Does that even happen?) This is about the aforementioned moderate Republican senator or, more importantly for KATG, an "edgy" standup comic like Keith or your favorite KATG guest. Do colleges need to provide safe spaces and counseling for students when these folks come to campus? Re-read the letter from The University of Chicago. Apparently, this is a thing.

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by seamus

When it comes to some of these debates like same-sex marriage, the students have already had constructive debates around it. But why should they waste their time continually rehashing the same debate. Why is the burden on them to act polite to bigots, make a rational argument, and then be dismissed as "coddled millennials". We don't ask astronomy majors to listen to astrologers because it is a waste of time, why would we ask them to listen to bigotry.

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Thanks for taking the time and explaining. This paragraph, (in particular) is brilliant.

I do have one last question though. Is Safe Space found on campus only? Or is it also in coffee shops and commercial places as well? Cuz I looked up Safe Space and it's definition seemed to deal solely with LGBT terminology.

Look. I live in Montana. It's literally - nowhere. There might be a gay pride/ rainbow sign at the food co-op. Or a Human Rights sticker on the occasional car. But it's sparse. I'm just wondering what the rest of the world is up to.

[Mattman]

The irony would be if members of KKK considered that their closed-door meetings were a "safe space" because they can feel safe to discuss their bigotry and hatred of others without fear of persecution or judgement. They fear the loathing of the general population due to their beliefs to such a great extent that they even have to cover their faces in public. Sad.

[Sparrow]

we have freedom to associate as well. i don't see why people feel all entitled to bust up in a bitch and be a dick to people trying to talk about a particular topic without interruption or in so much public as to invite your shitty take on it. it doesn't make you cool or more American thinking you're above being kind with your words or having respect for other peoples' need to not have your judgey ass around for a cotton pickin' minute. fuck off with that mess.

[spkheller]

Sparrow!!!

Originally Posted by Sparrow

we have freedom to associate as well. i don't see why people feel all entitled to bust up in a bitch and be a dick to people trying to talk about a particular topic without interruption or in so much public as to invite your shitty take on it. it doesn't make you cool or more American thinking you're above being kind with your words or having respect for other peoples' need to not have your judgey ass around for a cotton pickin' minute. fuck off with that mess.

[spkheller]

Well put Seamus!

[jbliss]

I think we'll all agree that Seamus' definitions of safe spaces are all 100% positive (AA, high school theatre, etc).

I'm suggesting that the kind referred to in the letter from the University of Chicago are not. Again, they wrote:

"You will find that we expect members of our community to be engaged in rigorous debate, discussion and even disagreement. At times this may challenge you and even cause discomfort. Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called ‘trigger warnings,’ we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own."

[spkheller]

It's fun that you keep referring to a widely contested letter to bolster your opinion of a thing you admittedly don't understand, but in the great words of Keith Malley: "Way to think it through, Stu!"

Originally Posted by jbliss

I think we'll all agree that Seamus' definitions of safe spaces are all 100% positive (AA, high school theatre, etc).

I'm suggesting that the kind referred to in the letter from the University of Chicago are not. Again, they wrote:

"You will find that we expect members of our community to be engaged in rigorous debate, discussion and even disagreement. At times this may challenge you and even cause discomfort. Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called ‘trigger warnings,’ we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces’ where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own."