2663: Dante’s Inferno

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

no. NO! do i need to blow a little whistle to get you to hear it?

I thing it hinges on what one views as reasonable.
I'm not saying unilaterally and unconditionally that this is reasonable.
I'm saying that there are circumstances where this is practical and the other solutions are ineffective.

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

You don't seem to be balancing this with the actions of the other person.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Anxious Nerd

t this is reasonable.
I'm saying that there are circumstances where this is practical and the other solutions are ineffective.

if that's where you are, you break up. you don't double down in up-training a person like a dog or a 2 year old.

Originally Posted by Anxious Nerd

You don't seem to be balancing this with the actions of the other person.

others' bad behavior doesn't excuse your own. i swear to god, who raised you?

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

if that's where you are, you break up. you don't double down in up-training a person like a dog or a 2 year old.



others' bad behavior doesn't excuse your own. i swear to god, who raised you?

What you've said is reasonable.

I don't know if I'd view it as training quite in the sense you're suggesting as that implies a lack of free will. You are providing a stimulus which allows the other person to decide what to do. If they don't want to change then they won't.

Your second statement seems to conflict with your previous one, since people don't normally describe a parent or a dog trainer's behaviour as bad.

[Sparrow]

you know what? fuck it. i'm in. nerd, you've been a real drag and i think that logically calls for me to smack you in the face with a bat. when you feel ready to admit you've been wrong, you can come apologize to me.

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

you know what? fuck it. i'm in. nerd, you've been a real drag and i think that logically calls for me to smack you in the face with a bat. when you feel ready to admit you've been wrong, you can come apologize to me.

Thank you for the time you've spent.
I apologise that I've been difficult to converse with.

I have tried my best to learn from what you've been saying and I was hoping this was going somewhere. I hope my views aren't super inflexible and I'm interested in seeing their flaws, I just often struggle to build alternative models.

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

you know what? fuck it. i'm in. nerd, you've been a real drag and i think that logically calls for me to smack you in the face with a bat. when you feel ready to admit you've been wrong, you can come apologize to me.

Ironically, this reaction is applying similar operant conditioning to what you've been criticising.
(Couldn't resist.)

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Anxious Nerd

...
The time, effort and expense spent on preparing for the date is part of a social contract (including one individual expecting the other to pay for dinner) which the other person is then violating with horrendous behaviour. This is in addition to them believing they can treat another human being that way.
...

So you think he paid so bitch better behave?
Does she only have to be nice or does she have to suck his dick real nice too?

And yes I do understand that there are quite a few women that expect the man to pay for everything but Dante is selecting these women for himself. I'm pretty sure he likes them to be subservient and he know that he can treat them however the fuck he wants.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Anxious Nerd

What you've said is reasonable.

I don't know if I'd view it as training quite in the sense you're suggesting as that implies a lack of free will. You are providing a stimulus which allows the other person to decide what to do. If they don't want to change then they won't.

Your second statement seems to conflict with your previous one, since people don't normally describe a parent or a dog trainer's behaviour as bad.

YES THEY ARE NOT CALLING IT BAD BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS AN ANIMAL AND THE OTHER IS A CHILD THAT YOU ARE MEANT TO TEACH THINGS

You really are not ashamed that you just literally compared a grown ass woman to a misbehaving dog?

[Anxious Nerd]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

So you think he paid so bitch better behave?
Does she only have to be nice or does she have to suck his dick real nice too?

And yes I do understand that there are quite a few women that expect the man to pay for everything but Dante is selecting these women for himself. I'm pretty sure he likes them to be subservient and he know that he can treat them however the fuck he wants.

I think that the behaviour seemed very bad, regardless of whether he paid or not. Given that he did do a bunch of other things, including paying, the behaviour can be considered especially galling.

You may be correct that Dante is creating a biased sample set.