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Old 10-16-2017, 10:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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What I don't get about the Harvey Weinstein rapes is that the people that are taking everything away from him are exactly the same people who knew of his actions and helped cover it all up. So what changed? Who else are they covering for? Why aren't they also being held accountable?
Because there are a shitton of people that don’t even believe Weinstein is guilty or at least that what he did was *soooo* bad, can we get this first step done pretty please. Also have a look at what comments Ben Affleck and others who were fake outraged got.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Weinstein knows that what he did was ‘wrong’ in the sense that it was illegal but he clearly thought that he was entitled to do it anyway.

Human brains are capable of that cognitive dissonance easy peasy.
Which sometimes turns out real bad (serial killer thinks he is a superhero for ridding the world of prostitutes) and other times just means Chemda is so convinced that drugs are the best thing ever that it’s not enough to just tell us that she loves taking them (which I’m fully on board with) but feels the need to regularly publicly advertise her husband selling them.
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Male friendships

This concept of male friendship as the highest form of bonding is nothing new...think ancient Greece or 19th century America. It's interesting that it's coming around again, and at least it'll help with the current problem we have where older men wind up mega depressed and alone if they're single. Good, I say!

It's too bad that misogyny is mixed in with all this but it's not like that's anything new. Just don't fuck the women haters, easy. How do you spot them? Look for the guy with his best bud sitting in his lap.
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Yeah, I think the issue here isn't that these criminals don't know what they are doing is wrong . . . rather, they are able to justify doing wrong things. A lot of this is societally based - as a society we help teach people justifications and we perpetuate those justifications as we talk about the crime after the fact. It's also about power and the belief that if I use my power to help someone in some way, then I am justified in exerting that power over them because they aught to be grateful for my help.
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I've had a restaurant owner treat me like shit over minimum wage. I imagine a movie producer is similar but worse. They put twenty million dollars in your pocket...

They own you.
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I've had a restaurant owner treat me like shit over minimum wage. I imagine a movie producer is similar but worse. They put twenty million dollars in your pocket...

They own you.
It's not just money, it's how easy they think you are to replace. Both restaurant and entertainment workers have a shit ton of competition, and I don't think Weistein tried this on anyone after they were A-list.

Sucks because this will only get worse as more jobs are replaced by AI. At least your robo-boss won't be interested in honking your tit/helmet...probably...
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Weinstein got off on the whole thing. Either he'd cajole a starlet into bed, whom he could then shame and use his power to silence. Or she'd find a way to wriggle out of it, and he'd blackball her to exercise his power and dominance.

Either way, he got off on abusing his power.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:34 AM   #19 (permalink)
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He knew that shit was wrong B. He just thought he could get away with it. I think the conversation got stuck on the semantics of him CARING if it's wrong or society caring if it's wrong.

I don't give a fuck. He knew that shit was wrong which is why he threatened women, silenced them and harassed them. He just had a lot of enablers alone the way who ALSO knew it was wrong and didn't give a fuck.
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He knew that shit was wrong B. He just thought he could get away with it. I think the conversation got stuck on the semantics of him CARING if it's wrong or society caring if it's wrong.

I don't give a fuck. He knew that shit was wrong which is why he threatened women, silenced them and harassed them. He just had a lot of enablers alone the way who ALSO knew it was wrong and didn't give a fuck.


Yes. Totally.

What I meant is he feels very entitled. And entitlement comes with the feeling of "nothing I do is wrong."

But maybe I just meant entitled. Not sure. But I agree with Rod's post.


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