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View Poll Results: Like Keith, do you think you’d be good at being homeless?
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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with Josh Gondelman and Casey James Salengo – Blackout drinking; homeless fantasies; Landmark Part 2; Josh’s wedding DJ/Michael Jackson impersonator; Harvey Weinstein’s perverted beginnings; Woody Allen worries over an inappropriate men witch hunt; James Corden’s tone deaf Weinstein jokes; portrait mode vs. landscape mode; an NYC teacher’s aid’s 500 child upskirt pictures; stealthing to be a form of rape; unorthodox burn remedies; Wiki What?

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Old 10-18-2017, 04:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i already do one on one therapy, but i'm so super extra fucked up that the intensive therapy is IN ADDITION to seeing someone one on one. I'm trying to reframe it as like a spa for my brain...

as for being homeless, i stand by my shit in a bag.

these things aren't connected.... don't read into it....
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Old 10-18-2017, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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as for being homeless, i stand by my shit in a bag....
Oh yeahhhh. I forgot. Keith can't shit in a bag!!!

Keith homeless? He'd never make it.
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Old 10-18-2017, 06:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was in councling for 6 hours after the birth of my child because of ppd.
It helped and was great.
It was a free counseling provided by our city ( and a specialist in that field) and was very good.
That's for the German health system.

Besides that I'm in no therapy and I don't think I need to be.
By now I'm rather healthy mentally and my issues are normal life issues.
I'm open to therapy if something changes . And I would like to talk about myself. But I think That's not the right reason.
I feel similarly.

Sometimes I just want to go to therapy just to see what it's like but I can't justify the cost of the visit.

I went to a university counselor once because I wanted to discuss possibly having a disability (not helpful) and I paid for talkspace for like a month just for help getting to work on time (kinda helpful).

My school has mandatory mental health checks for us several times a month. Sometimes it feels like I'm disappointing the psychologists because I'm not the stressed out, on edge, sleepless student they expect me to be. Last time they literally said "Wow you're smiling, your clothes are clean and your hair is done. This is unusual."
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I feel similarly.

Sometimes I just want to go to therapy just to see what it's like but I can't justify the cost of the visit.
I'm not going for fun. I can't afford it (i'm gonna go into debt). I need it to live.

If you want to see what therapy is like go to alanon or an open oa or coda or na meeting, its not too too dissimilair from group therapy you'd get in a psych ward. In fact, if you're REALLY curious, go to an ER and tell them you want to hurt yourself. They'll hold you for 1-3 days (...or more) and you'll get to see what its like.

The intensive therapy is six months. I'm hoping it helps. if it does i'm going to celebrate with a l'chaim tattoo. if it doesn't help, i ll just keep trying i guess.

And Mermaid, what they said to you means you're functional. Even tho you can be functional and still have a disability or mental illness, being functional is something a lot of people can only aspire to. for other people, not being functional IS WHY they're homeless. So, feel good about that, it could be worse, you're doing great.
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Sometimes I just want to go to therapy just to see what it's like but I can't justify the cost of the visit.

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someitmes i just want to know what its like to be ok.

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someitmes i just want to know what its like to be ok.
I’m so happy you are getting yourself help and I am so so sorry to hear how unnecessarily hard and expensive that is.
Thanks for sharing.
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And Mermaid, what they said to you means you're functional. Even tho you can be functional and still have a disability or mental illness, being functional is something a lot of people can only aspire to. for other people, not being functional IS WHY they're homeless. So, feel good about that, it could be worse, you're doing great.
Being functional is great and I'm glad I am.

But it made it so that my disability wasn't diagnosed until I was an adult. Yeah, I can get my shit together and act according to what is expected of me in society. I'm from the south so that kind of thing got literally beat into me.

It took years of "why can't I just xyz like everyone else" or "maybe if I just try extra super hard this time I can" before I even considered the possibility that I might need to see someone. Because I was seemingly functional. But my functional took 10x's the work as someone who is neurotypical.

I'm lucky to not have a mood disorder. But I think if I had continued to go undiagnosed I would have definitely developed one.

I guess the school psychologist being shocked at my lack of stress brings back those old thoughts of "wait am I not doing it right? Am I not working as hard as I should be?"

Turns out that in my years of overcompensating for my undiagnosed disability, I developed better time and stress management skills than most neurotypical people.

I'm glad you are taking steps to be where you want to be mentally. It's a big deal.
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Turns out that in my years of overcompensating for my undiagnosed disability, I developed better time and stress management skills than most neurotypical people.
That's exactly what the book, Drama of the Gifted Child is about, the idea that we react to either trauma or conditions we have (like a learning disability or mental illness) and that through our efforts we develop coping mechanisms and skills to assimilate and compensate!
Your sentiments about therapy are totally valid; landmark is shitty exploitation, but self help is AMAZING. I recommend the books "Taming your Gremlin", "the Artist's way" and "the Six Pillars of Self Esteem". All three are really helpful, and they have nothing to do with recruiting your friends to a cult/pyramid scheme. : )
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That's exactly what the book, Drama of the Gifted Child is about, the idea that we react to either trauma or conditions we have (like a learning disability or mental illness) and that through our efforts we develop coping mechanisms and skills to assimilate and compensate!

Your sentiments about therapy are totally valid; landmark is shitty exploitation, but self help is AMAZING. I recommend the books "Taming your Gremlin", "the Artist's way" and "the Six Pillars of Self Esteem". All three are really helpful, and they have nothing to do with recruiting your friends to a cult/pyramid scheme. : )


I'm reading the Six Pillars of Self-Esteem right now with BabyButt! Well... actually BabyButt reads to me in the morning and that's one of the books we're reading now.

The other one is Beyond the Breath.

You heard great things about the Artist's way. It's on our list. And now Taming Your Gremlin is too. Thanks!

It is really amazing how much you can learn about yourself and improve your life.

I find it necessary to also say things out loud to at least one other person. Otherwise I'm always running ideas and thoughts through the same system, which is me. I need other perspectives to make sure that I'm seeing more than the blocks that are already in place in my head.


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