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Old 11-02-2017, 04:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Holy fuck. We always knew Ray was retarded but this picture business + sleep with me or get out ... even for drunk comics... it's too much.

It's easy for me to say Keith shouldn't hang with Ray. It's his friend and football hang time but He works with Andrea and it's just the respectful/ class thing to do. Show some solidarity.

I do agree 100% with Keith and his boners though. I'm not sure anyone else in studio got what he was saying. As a non-rapey guy, when you hear about these guys doing weird shit. You think to yourself, "I can't picture myself in this scenario. There's zero appeal. How do you even get hard??? I'd be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed, as a man, for all men, just hearing this."

What a roller coaster ep. Even alluded to Brother Love perpetuating rape culture.
Well said. This is exactly the kind of conversations that need to happen in front of preteens, teens, college age kids and adult males. See how actions of men can be so fucked up. It's not about trying to have sex it's about interacting with another human and how your actions can affect them and how you need to respect and communicate with them not just push yourself on them or make demands.
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Old 11-02-2017, 05:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Just to be clear. I'm not a male feminist. I'm not even remotely a good person.

I'm a comedy fan.

Andrea is super funny. Ray is not. The math is easy.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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We need you, non rapey men. You don't need to be saints, just tell other guys that they are disgusting when they are. They will rather listen to you.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:20 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks for a challenging episode, Chemda.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I cried when Andrea cried because god damn. I look back at my life and I think "how many times did I experience this exact thing in one way or another?" From the start of being sexual at about 15 until about the age of 35, almost every sexual experience was something I didn't want in one way or another yet had no context or words or way to say why or how or what I did want. Talk about a mindfuck.

In our lives, we women have been taught:
If you kiss you better give it up or you're a tease
Don't wear makeup too young bc old guys will hit on you
Never enter a mans house if you don't plan on fucking him bc we all know that's what we're agreeing to
Know where the exits are on the first few dates
Be sexy
Don't be sexy
Men will do anything to fuck you
Men rape children
Men rape everyone
If you get raped why were you there
If you get raped tell someone
If you get raped and you tell someone prepare for it to ruin your life
Be smart don't get raped
Don't get too drunk
Drink or youre boring
Fuck or you're frigid
If you don't fuck x number of times a week in a relationship something's wrong
If you aren't looking to fuck somethings wrong and you're probably a bitch anyway
Don't enjoy sex or you're a slut
Enjoy sex and do the things that they do in porn or you're boring
No man is ever your friend
Get a walk to your car or you will get raped
Be nice to men who shout at you because they might rape you

Etc
Etc
Etc

It makes sense that so many women are soooooo fucked up for so long when shit goes down. It makes sense that we don't know how to react in certain situations because of all this conflicting garbage, none of which takes into account **what we might actually want at that moment**. The concept of consent and this whole wave of shit coming out now is THE BASELINE of us feeling some minimal agency to have even words to slow men the fuck down so we can move in a way that feels good and safe for us.

Also therapy
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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There is hope. I was brought up extremely Catholic and conservative and I'm over it. Like no sex before marriage or you are a whore.
At the beginning of me having sex I wondered why anyone would do this because it hurts and is no fun.

Now I love sex and find it magical.
Like an other world I can walk in sometimes. Intimacy hot af.
I even can live with being monogamous for now at least.
Find out what you like and start there.
Just commit to be a bitch and do what you want. You don't have to.replay porn. Unless you want to.
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Old 11-03-2017, 04:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Thoughts on Ray:

He was a total creep and asshole that night with Andrea. But what he did was not against the law, which puts him in a different league than Louis C.K./Cosby/Weinstein/Pat Dixon. Those people broke the law with their actions, Ray just broke the rules of being a decent human. I'd like to hear what he has to say for himself.

EDIT: as far as we know what he did wasn't against the law. But if there was touching or harassment or more, he's no longer just a creep he's a sexual assaulter or harasser.
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Old 11-03-2017, 05:44 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Apia,
It took me a lifetime to get there after decades of putting myself into uncomfortable situations with men who (as andrea said) couldn't tell from just MY FACE that something was askew as fuck. Ive been with an incredible guy for the past two years and I'm just learning how to set aside expectations and anger and feelings of things not being fair and accepting that he actually wants to please me and make me feel good because for years I dated guys who didn't give a shit if I got off and I thought that was just normal.
WEED HELPS SO MUCH WITH THIS, WOMEN.

The point I'm trying to make is that the mixed messages we get from birth all throughout life are so shitty that someone like me who never even experienced sexual assault can be so fucked in the head when it comes to sex. Bloop
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Old 11-03-2017, 05:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Also

MOTHERFUCKEN PROPS TO KEITH for being a man who is willing to host this platform for women and sit there as sometimes the only guy in the room with all this... stuff. Thank you.

And of course extra super props to Chemda and Andrea for being kickass role models to women. God damn I love this show. Muah muah muah!
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:25 PM   #30 (permalink)
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True. Keith is pretty evolved and better than most to really think about those things and to learn. Even if this means rethinking guess friendships.
I hope his genetic test says he is German or polish.
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