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Old 01-09-2018, 11:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Steve Bannon apologizes; Golden Globes; Dustin Marshall and the end of Feral Audio; Ben Vereen and Paul Haggis, sexual abusers; revenge porn; Madonna vs. The Company Selling Her Used Panties; upcoming Grammy Awards

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Shiiiiiiiiiiiit, I've been following Dustin Marshall from afar since the early days of Earwolf as a fan of Who Charted and Comedy Bang Bang when he was their engineer and was stoked when I heard you guys were hooking up with Feral.

I hadn't heard this stuff about Dustin, but it partially explains why there's been no new episode of Harmontown, the show headed by Dan Harmon (Community, Rick & Morty) and hosted on Feral.

The other part of no new episode of Harmontown is probably that Dan Harmon was also outed as a skeezy motherfucker about a week ago.

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Old 01-10-2018, 04:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think he can change but maybe more with medication than therapy.
It would be good for everyone. For now, please no woman tries to save him anymore.
It was interesting to listen to his letter and to learn how he thinks. It's extremely controlling and sick.

I understand Keith's impulse to put everyone in jail, but I think you already have too many people in jail in America.
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I listened to a podcast documentary about Dan Harmon and his ex girlfriend and their split.
He made a terrible impression on me, he's lots of work for a partner and awful.
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I listened to a podcast documentary about Dan Harmon and his ex girlfriend and their split.
He made a terrible impression on me, he's lots of work for a partner and awful.
Yeah, Harmontown did a nationwide podcast tour not long before KATG did theirs, and documented the whole thing as a movie, and it was obvious his relationship with Erin McGathy (who also has a podcast on Feral) was a doomed thing. A fascinating trainwreck.

And it's only recently Harmon seems to have (genuinely?) stopped romanticizing that side of himself. For a long time it appeared as if he felt like his difficultness was all part of him being this great artist. Like he was so mind-bogglingly creative that being mercurial just came with the territory.

(The same thing seemed to be true of Dustin Marshall in some ways, and also of guys like the film critic/podcaster/Twitter bully Devin Faraci who was taken down as a sexual abuser a few months before Weinstein (and which tied into the Tim League/Alamo Drafthouse fiasco and which tied into internet film giant Harry Knowles being outed as a massive creepo ... where does it all end?))

Then the #MeToo thing started happening and you could hear in Harmon's podcasts from late Nov and early Dec that he seemed to start to see that he wasn't a charming asshole, he was just an asshole.
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Exactly.
A to do for women: ( yes for women)

When you meet a troubled guy, don't think " I can heal him with my love and help him, that's the real love, let's date or get married!"
Think:
" he is nice, but he can only help himself to get better. We can be friends but I'm no magic healer and I have my own shit"
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Exactly.
A to do for women: ( yes for women)

When you meet a troubled guy, don't think " I can heal him with my love and help him, that's the real love, let's date or get married!"
Think:
" he is nice, but he can only help himself to get better. We can be friends but I'm no magic healer and I have my own shit"
Most people that have savior complexes, or fear of abandonment, usually have to go through a few of the failed attempts of the first thought to then get to point where they are even capable of having the second thought....

Also most people don't really embrace the concept of working on their own shit outside of a relationship until they have been in a few. Many young people think relationships fill voids inside them, men and women.
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I know because I of course did it myself in my 20 ties. I was healed from this after my relationship with a psychopath and my attempt to help/save him. I tried and tried and it only got worse and my energy and will to live went away.
I remember being so down that I stayed in my apartment for days, only crying, drinking wine and eating nothing. I was completely exhausted. I was so desperate I wished to die in my sleep.

Luckily I realized I had it in my power to loose all contact to this man and that he made me sick and I always went back for more.
I chose to stay with him and I could choose not to.
After this relationship I never again tried to save someone.
I know my limits. I don't have unlimited energy. I need a partner who can deal with his life on his own, and my husband does.
I can of course support him. That's different.
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TEAM CHANGE!!

It's not easy or pretty but it happens. Borderline is a tough disorder that's especially tough on friends and family. This guy thinks his actions came from a place of love for his ex, and that that somehow excuses him. That's the story he's telling himself, and he needs a new one. Sounds like a weekend at Landmark would sort it all out.

Sarcasm aside, what comes through in that rambling letter is that he's begun to realize he's an asshole. If he can move from being a predator to realizing he's acted predatory and needs a timeout, why can't he continue to move in a positive direction? In a few months he might look back on that letter with shame and disgust. Hopefully this doesn't prompt him to write another rambling mess of a public statement. A journal entry would be better.
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So many men that I meet have emotional and childhood problems that they need to work through.

It's really narrowing my dating pool.
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