3324: Locker Room Taxes w/ Katharine Heller

[sievo]

I had to look up this documentary about rich kids, looks like Born Rich from 2003?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342143/

[LoopyLou79]

https://www.channel4.com/news/reveal...voting-in-2016

I don't think you can watch it in the US but it's worth a look if you can.


http://www.channel4.com

[BrianAlt]

Here's a good shorthand version of the Times article: https://nyti.ms/3mUl8Y9

Also, had to vote NO, but I hope I'm wrong.

[Liquid]

I get that it is ridiculous that Trump pays such low Federal taxes. But so far I don't think there is any indication of anything illegal. He is exploiting the system that every rich person does. I don't think you can make a moral judgement based on that.

To the other point of him being in such huge debt and might be beholden to foreign governments. Again if I'm not mistaken these returns don't show that. He does owe a lot of money but those are in the public records. He doesn't owe money to Russia like was claimed.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is ridiculous and is making the world a much worse place. BUT his low tax bill is definitely not the way to take him down. In fact I think it will be better for him.

[Apia resurrected]

Originally Posted by Liquid

I get that it is ridiculous that Trump pays such low Federal taxes. But so far I don't think there is any indication of anything illegal. He is exploiting the system that every rich person does. I don't think you can make a moral judgement based on that.

To the other point of him being in such huge debt and might be beholden to foreign governments. Again if I'm not mistaken these returns don't show that. He does owe a lot of money but those are in the public records. He doesn't owe money to Russia like was claimed.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is ridiculous and is making the world a much worse place. BUT his low tax bill is definitely not the way to take him down. In fact I think it will be better for him.

I can see that. That his fans think he is a hero for knowing how to play the system.

[Apia resurrected]

What do you think would harm him? I see it’s hard.
We have such low expectations of him that we expect the worst and his fans don’t care.

Sex crimes don’t matter.
Lies don’t matter.
Infidelity doesn’t matter. ( I don’t think it should necessarily but it has in the past)
Racism is a plus for him.
Having no idea about science doesn’t matter.

So what would impress the maga crowd?
Not what would impress us?

I think something ridiculous maybe like not being as manly as he tries to be? He is still a human.
( I think)

[Liquid]

Originally Posted by Apia resurrected

What do you think would harm him? I see it’s hard.
We have such low expectations of him that we expect the worst and his fans don’t care.

I think it would be out MAGAing him. The progressive Democrats have no choice to vote for Biden whatever he says. I think the play is Biden just out Trumps Trump. Go in about how he wants to Tax China, bring jobs back, how the stock market and GDP mean nothing for the average American. Lower healthcare costs, crackdown on rioters etc,. It's not like they are held accountable to anything they say.

[LoopyLou79]

Originally Posted by Apia resurrected

I can see that. That his fans think he is a hero for knowing how to play the system.

This is what I think, it’s sad but they are weak people who are naturally attracted to rally around bullies and strong men.

[Z-Corn]

Let's please not forget to add Ted Nugent to the list of creepy men who have sex with young girls...


When Ted was 30 he adopted his 17 year-old girlfriend so he wouldn't be hassled taking her over state lines.


That's fuckin' creepy.

[Bucho]

The reprise of Keith's theory that there's a cover-up involving mid-budget action movies resulting in the real deaths of foreign stunt workers - that killed me already, then the Sports Illustrated Swimwear bit killed me all over again.

"That's interesting, I bet that's Belize ... no, Spain ... huh ... I was in for a shock ..."