3523: Gold Mine

[nordcharonmir]

Originally Posted by Keith

Sounds good. You simply can't find it. Ok. Fair enough. Gotta see all sides, and thank you.

Trying to only see your side on this but the facts available don't seem to stack up. Not sure there is another side just a degree to which this is wrong. Is it retroactive shame or is it yucky bad behavior, or is it rape...this is what I'm trying to figure out. The facts available today seem to point to the lower end of the spectrum but he is being treated like a violent rapist. What am I missing?

[Sparrow]

you think what he did was just boys being boys behavior and we should just shrug it off?

[nordcharonmir]

"I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.

These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly..."

The news reporter is the one that posited that on a call between a victim and louis there was a statement made about the bathroom...which neither party agreed had happened. Only the reporter and then echoed by other reporters is there any claim about a bathroom?????

[nordcharonmir]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

you think what he did was just boys being boys behavior and we should just shrug it off?

that's a loaded question...depends HEAVILY on what he actually did which is the issue at hand hear that there seems to be a whole spectrum of what people are talking about he did. It's not as easy as lil Willie's slap where we all are working on the same facts of what happened and discussing the why and the 'shoulds'...the very fact of what happened seems to be obscured in this one so some people are talking about creepy stuff, some people are talking about rape and some people think it's just weird consensual weirdness.

If he asked women for consent, they consented and then they felt yucky about it later...then that's one thing. If he at anytime physically blocked/stopped/forced or proceed when consent wasn't given or withdrawn...then that's a whole different scenario.

[nordcharonmir]

What happened to #believeallwomen ? The victim said that didn't happen but you guys don't believe her because it doesn't fit with what the news said?

[Keith]

Yes. Solved.

[Svage]

Originally Posted by Keith

Yes. Solved.

Where are the new katg/chu&a episodes, I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms.

[Keith]

It's Keith and The Girl Week, baby!

[Svage]

Originally Posted by Keith

It's Keith and The Girl Week, baby!

Noooooooooooooooooooo
I mean yes!
But also nooooooooo cause no new episodes this week and probably next week cause you're gonna use it as an excuse for recovery time from katg week noooooooooo

Ok I guess 😞

[Bucho]

Originally Posted by nordcharonmir

"I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.

These stories are true."

You're on the right track.

Now read the New York Times article.