610: Doggin' the Competition

[crazyrob]

Originally Posted by jesikat

does that only work with certain people or do you have to be in person maybe? because i didn't find myself wanting the object he was pushing..

Well alot of it has to be inperson and it's not something that can be done over tghe phone or just by watching something.

Alot of NLP has to do with touching the target at certain times to help the mind have a special focus on certain words

[264]

The whole Criss Angel thing is from Penn & Teller, actually. Criss Angel was on Penn Jillette's podcast promoting Phenomenon, and Penn made it clear that he felt stuff like "talking to the dead" was a con that shady people used to steal money from people desperately trying to communicate with dead lovers/family/friends.

So basically, Criss, Penn, and Teller feel their magic is entertainment. The "Talking to the dead" bit, they believe to be a con and not magic.

[Greenpoint]

Back in 2000, as an employee working on "The Judge Mills Lane Show," we had scouts drive to all the courthouses in and around NYC and get copies of all the small claims filed. Since these are a matter of public record, anyone can look them up. Back in the office we would cold call the plaintiffs and give them a scripted offer. Basically, we would pay $400 just to show up. Then we would guarantee payment of the claim if the judge rules in their favor. This incentive is used because many times winning a case doesn't mean the defendant actually has the money to pay you. If they seem interested, we call the defendant and offer them the same $400 to show up, and offer to pay the settlement for them! If they lose they pay NOTHING, and walk away with $400.

Now think about people who file lawsuits. Many people who are suing for principle will refuse this offer, some will consider it and realize what a ridiculous offer this is. It's only the crazy fuckers who love the added hassle and the idea of being on TV. (Yes, you too Keith) Once all the crazy fuckers are on board, you start the shit-talking. These people are usually suing for insane crap like "she stole $800 dollars worth of my bras and came back when I wasn't home and stuffed them in my toilet which clogged it and flooded my apartment causing $1200 worth of damages to my magic cards and hamster friends"

After we get the story straight, if possible, we get them to the studio on a taping day and put them in greenrooms. Under Producers' supervision, we tell them anything, mostly lies, to piss them off and encourage them to yell, fight, and talk back to the judge. All for the good of ratings!

After the case, we are not allowed to see any of the litigants. They are quickly escourted out of the building. Yay.


By the way, Keith and Chemda, this is the book you need to read about Small Claims Court. We used this book everyday at the show: ISBN 0-7641-0237-0

http://www.amazon.com/Small-Claims-C.../dp/0764191578


PS. The Judge on the show, Mills Lane, he's only a real judge in Nevada and his rulings in New York are NOT legally binding. Whaa-Whaa!!!

[Hodad]

Originally Posted by 264

The whole Criss Angel thing is from Penn & Teller, actually. Criss Angel was on Penn Jillette's podcast promoting Phenomenon, and Penn made it clear that he felt stuff like "talking to the dead" was a con that shady people used to steal money from people desperately trying to communicate with dead lovers/family/friends.

So basically, Criss, Penn, and Teller feel their magic is entertainment. The "Talking to the dead" bit, they believe to be a con and not magic.

I thought Penn Jillette's podcast ended earlier this year. Has it started up again? What is the RSS feed? Inquiring minds want to know.

[HeyAnne]

Originally Posted by april

I was driving to my nanny job this morning and I was fucking crying I was laughing that hard at "PHENOMENONUHGUHGUHUGH" and Keith shortening all the words. CHICKUH! Jesus Murphy that was wicked!

I agree -- this show had me crying! I was on my way to a meeting and I was wiping the tears away as I entered into the meeting room. I had to listen again when I left and was driving home and it was just as funny the second time around. Everytime my kids get me riled I feel like yelling at them 'PHENOMENONUHGUHGUHUGH'. You know what, I think I will. This show is another classic -- one to share with your friends to get them hooked.

[264]

Originally Posted by Hodad

I thought Penn Jillette's podcast ended earlier this year. Has it started up again? What is the RSS feed? Inquiring minds want to know.

It has ended. However, there is an archive of all the episodes at pennfans.net in the audio archive.

[Claire]

Originally Posted by Greenpoint

Back in 2000, as an employee working on "The Judge Mills Lane Show," we had scouts drive to all the courthouses in and around NYC and get copies of all the small claims filed. Since these are a matter of public record, anyone can look them up. Back in the office we would cold call the plaintiffs and give them a scripted offer. Basically, we would pay $400 just to show up. Then we would guarantee payment of the claim if the judge rules in their favor. This incentive is used because many times winning a case doesn't mean the defendant actually has the money to pay you. If they seem interested, we call the defendant and offer them the same $400 to show up, and offer to pay the settlement for them! If they lose they pay NOTHING, and walk away with $400.

Now think about people who file lawsuits. Many people who are suing for principle will refuse this offer, some will consider it and realize what a ridiculous offer this is. It's only the crazy fuckers who love the added hassle and the idea of being on TV. (Yes, you too Keith) Once all the crazy fuckers are on board, you start the shit-talking. These people are usually suing for insane crap like "she stole $800 dollars worth of my bras and came back when I wasn't home and stuffed them in my toilet which clogged it and flooded my apartment causing $1200 worth of damages to my magic cards and hamster friends"

After we get the story straight, if possible, we get them to the studio on a taping day and put them in greenrooms. Under Producers' supervision, we tell them anything, mostly lies, to piss them off and encourage them to yell, fight, and talk back to the judge. All for the good of ratings!

After the case, we are not allowed to see any of the litigants. They are quickly escourted out of the building. Yay.


By the way, Keith and Chemda, this is the book you need to read about Small Claims Court. We used this book everyday at the show: ISBN 0-7641-0237-0

http://www.amazon.com/Small-Claims-C.../dp/0764191578


PS. The Judge on the show, Mills Lane, he's only a real judge in Nevada and his rulings in New York are NOT legally binding. Whaa-Whaa!!!

OK but, The Peoples Court with Marilyn Milian is 100% true, right? please, she is my hero. "Stick a fork in me I am done." "I wouldn't believe you if your tongue came notarized' ha ha classic.

[Greenpoint]

Oh yeah, The Peoples court is the exception! well, not really. More Marilyn quotes from Wikipedia:
- "Did I breathe and give you the impression that I was done speaking?"
- "Have you confused this with your opportunity to continue to talk?"
- "What part is this, Douglas? This is the part where I rule and they have to shut up and listen. I LOVE this part!"

From Judge Judy (Our competition) comes my favorite:
- "Yer not the coldest beer in the fridge, huh?"

By the way, the peoples court set is on the 8th floor of a totally normal looking building in midtown, Manhattan. It's mostly made out of fire-retardant plywood with wood-grained "contact paper."

[anil]

Originally Posted by memecherry

When I was in Virginia I had one of my veneers crack and needed it replaced (I was trying to open something with my teeth, bad idea when your teeth are worth $7k). The original work was done by a dentist here in California, so I just went to closest dentist to my house at the time in Virginia. It was a horrible experience from pretty much beginning to end, but I had made the mistake of paying ahead of time (a little over $1,000) and once it was all said and done it was one of my all time worst experiences at a dentist office.

Fast forward a couple of months later and I'm back in California eating a pretzel, and my brand new veneer just pops off! This is NOT supposed to happen. I called to get my money back since I was going to have to get the veneer replaced, and they just wanted me to go to an affiliate office out here to have the work done (and still pay).

Long story short it was a bit of a fight, but once I got a letter from my dentist stating how bad of a job they did (and x-rays), I threatened to take them to small claims court if they didn't give me my $ back. Within a week of me sending them a copy of the letter I got $750 back which I was happy with.... Anywhoo... You should totally try to get your money back, you paid for a service that was done incorrectly..... Usually just the threat of taking them to court with some kind of documentation that you can use in your favor will inspire them to try to make you happy... Always worth a try!

You paid $7k for teeth? Whatever happened to the good old days of people growing their own teeth? Does this make me sound 60 (I'm 23) are more people getting this done?? I thought only Hilary Duff and rich old buggers got this kind of shit done.

And can you take them out? If not I think I'd prefer dentures... I'd take them shits out and scare the hejebus out of kids! --->

[aGoddamnFuckinFan]

Here's some music to go with the NBC magic show... hope you like.

Phananaaaa!!!!!, The theme song
Keith and the Muppets
Download MP3: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PC6LEEB1