614: Reverend Lawrence Florman

[Keith]

Of course you do.

[ldyminerva]

Originally Posted by phooey

It's my new ringtone! I love it!

I want it as a ringtone....how do i do that?

[phooey]

Ok, I opened audacity... taped it, compressed it... made it into a wav file... sent it to my blackberry.. opened it up and saved it to my sounds.. went to the sound and made it my ringtone.

[Tech007]

Man I love the phenomena clip - goddam addictive.

And as the resident audio tech geek I have to comment on the NFL football audio glitch. If you haven't heard the glitch -




Everyday hundreds of techs like me setup dozens of trucks at arenas. It takes TONS of work to set-up an arena for that kind of sports/concert audio - will get some pix and audio clips for you. Collecting the crowd sound is part of capturing the 'essence' of the event. Be it music or sports.

for geeks - http://mixonline.com/sound4picture/f...surround_game/

It would be impossible to fake accurate BG for the hundreds and thousands of hours of LIVE sports every day. Sure you could be small loops of crowd yelling here and there but no way you could fake it 100%.

In this instance they say a tape machine output got hooked backed to it's input and caused an feedback loop. CD Skipping? What you hear is digital data running out/overloading ( on the rear surround channels only) and the digital surround processors trying to cover up the glitch for a second then dead air. Your cd player makes the same sound when it tries to correct the data missing across a scratch on a cd track. It was so noticeable cos the track/crowd was really loud in the mix at that instant. Had it been during a quiet stretch you wouldn't have heard it.

Most major league games send 5.1 surround and stereo mixes out to the networks for broadcast. These 8 channels can get fucked up in about 28,429 places on the way to Uncle Joe's RCA. It's all digital and there's millions of interconnections and conversions. The announcers voice is most important and fed 5.1 and mono for backup. back two surround channels aren't as important and more 'fragile' - thus the glitch sounded 'crowd only'

[Keith]

This is from the same sports network that admitted adding sounds to golf and basketball to make the games more exciting. You'll understand if we don't give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Tech007]

Originally Posted by Keith

This is from the same sports network that admitted adding sounds to golf and basketball to make the games more exciting. You'll understand if we don't give them the benefit of the doubt.

Sure, sure be skeptical but it's not FAKE it's ENHANCED. And you like it better that way! -The Management.

Here's more on the 'enhancing' - it may have been a sound effect gadget farting.

As Chris Mortensen of ESPN mentioned during Monday NFL Countdown prior to the Ravens-Steelers game, some networks have been known to enhance their productions by adding their own canned crowd noise.

We’ve heard from several sound experts over the past day, and our research confirms that one of them is actually a big wheel in the music and television industry. Here’s what said unnamed sound expert had to say about the phenomenon, without prompting:

“The sound was a glitch a digital playback machine, which was providing additional crowd noise to be piped into the broadcast to cover for the crowd’s quiet spots, or to enhance the ‘up’ feeling on a big play. Multiple types of demeanor or ‘feels’ are available to be triggered, to properly match the game’s mood. It does not replace the live crowd, but is used for enhancement. The machine (computer, actually) had a brain fart. It happens."

They’re accusing CBS of manipulating the crowd noise, of providing the sporting equivalent of an artificial sit-com laugh track — which, if true, would constitute a pretty crazy development. CBS, of course, denies the entire thing. But, when you think about it, it starts to make some sense: A couple of years ago, I began to notice crowds indulging themselves, more than ever before, in non-FCC-approved communal chants (the ever-popular “BULLSHIT!” leading the profane pack), and then, all of a sudden, stopped hearing it all over again. I guess that the networks began to fear those government-levied fines, and took things into their own hands.

[phooey]

Originally Posted by Keith

This is from the same sports network that admitted adding sounds to golf and basketball to make the games more exciting. You'll understand if we don't give them the benefit of the doubt.

if sounds could only make golf more exciting... the sound of a lion in the rough or a rattlesnake on the tee that would be exciting.

[Omni]

Every time they get the ball in the hole, they should be required to scream "PHENOMENON" to boost ratings.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by phooey

if sounds could only make golf more exciting... the sound of a lion in the rough or a rattlesnake on the tee that would be exciting.

I think it should also be changed to a full-contact sport. And maybe the ball should be covered in razor wire?

[phooey]

or, if you enter a tournament and you 'don't make the cut' you die, that would put the pressure on.