925: Banana, Banana

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

I know we're just idly fantasizing here, but who decides WHO is a jerk and thus must be killed? That's usually where fascist societies run into trouble.

You are right, actually i don't like the state deciding about the eventual solution. And i probably expressed myself badly (english is not my first language). So i'll rephrase the idea:

I think that if a man has access to the use of condoms but refuses to use them out of selfishness or some weird religious belief, the girl who gets pregnant should be free to have an abortion AND cut his balls off without being accused of any crime, to prevent the douchebag to cause further trouble.

Also if anyone did any serious harm to a person, the victim should be allowed to punish the perpetrator in any form that she or he thinks it's right. The state should help them through that.

People should be allowed to punish the one who hurt them, if they decide it's their right to do so, even HARSHLY. So a doychebag who uses his dick as a weapon can be made unoffensive by its victims, to prevent future trouble.

I know it may sound fascist or harsh. I'm not forcing anyone to think my way, and i could be wrong, but after seeing a lot of people act like assholes repeatedly and getting away with it, my ideas have turned in this direction.

[BrownEyedBtch]

Originally Posted by kattywhompas

There is a woman in my office I call the bible thumper. She talks at lunch about how much she loves Jesus and how she goes to church every weekend. She is by far the meanest most manipulative person in the office. Everyone is afraid of her and how she will retaliate if you cross her, so people are nice to her face.

When she says something really mean or talks about how she really dislikes someone I've started asking her, "Is that what Jesus would do?" Not only does it amuse me, but its a jab at her.

I would go to HR and file a harrassment charge against her for making me uncomfortable with her religious viewpoints all the time. Just because she believes it doesn't mean the rest of you have to hear about it.

BTW, this was a much better show. Lauren was very quiet.

[BrownEyedBtch]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

I think that if a man has access to the use of condoms but refuses to use them out of selfishness or some weird religious belief, the girl who gets pregnant should be free to have an abortion AND cut his balls off without being accused of any crime, to prevent the douchebag to cause further trouble.

Sorry, but the woman has just as much of a responsibility to close her legs and get out of bed before unprotected sex, if she has that much of an objection to it. Making it his fault because she too jumped without a parachute is bullshit because it deflects blame. Two people fucked, two people are responsible.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

People should be allowed to punish the one who hurt them, if they decide it's their right to do so, even HARSHLY. So a douchebag who uses his dick as a weapon can be made unoffensive by its victims, to prevent future trouble.

What if the condomless sex was mutual, and he was told she was on the pill, had her tubes tied, had a condition, etc. and she got pregnant anyway? Does he have the right to rip her uterus out because she offended him? Again, not all the blame can always be placed on the guy.

[panic_chick]

On BDSM...Secretary is fairly lame, if you want to see a more intense version of BDSM, check out kink.com, its a pay porn site, but you can get the gist with the previews of movies and photos.

Also, I recently posted on another thread that I saw the movie Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist.....which is definitly no Secretary, IMHO.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by BrownEyedBtch

Sorry, but the woman has just as much of a responsibility to close her legs and get out of bed before unprotected sex, if she has that much of an objection to it. Making it his fault because she too jumped without a parachute is bullshit because it deflects blame. Two people fucked, two people are responsible.



What if the condomless sex was mutual, and he was told she was on the pill, had her tubes tied, had a condition, etc. and she got pregnant anyway? Does he have the right to rip her uterus out because she offended him? Again, not all the blame can always be placed on the guy.

I blame the guy in the particular case i mentioned because i don't understand how can somebody who has no job, no house and yet an education and a presumed high IQ, get a girl pregnant then get kicked out of her house for being a leech, and start dating again mouthing off how he wants to have another baby and forgetting about the ones he already has, like having one is some kind of a funny game.

The decione should be case-based and in that case (who actually got me a bit mad about the issue) he should be neutered like the animal he is.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by panic_chick

On BDSM...Secretary is fairly lame, if you want to see a more intense version of BDSM, check out kink.com, its a pay porn site, but you can get the gist with the previews of movies and photos.

Also, I recently posted on another thread that I saw the movie Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist.....which is definitly no Secretary, IMHO.

Supermasochist is a cool movie but the whole issue about Flanagan's Illness and death makes it so sad. I think Secretary is more of a fluffy lite version of S/M made for mainstream audiences who don't know anything about it. I never understood why so many people like or find it so arousing. Get an old John Waters movie, those are funny AND perverted...

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

Supermasochist is a cool movie but the whole issue about Flanagan's Illness and death makes it so sad. I think Secretary is more of a fluffy lite version of S/M made for mainstream audiences who don't know anything about it. I never understood why so many people like or find it so arousing. Get an old John Waters movie, those are funny AND perverted...

I've never seen SuperMaschocist but I liked Secretary for several reasons (mainstream as it may be, AND may I also add that for it being so mainstream most people don't seem to get it)

1. Masochism is often thought of as something where someone just likes pain or even humiliation and that can be part of it but there's also a level of control that I find way more arousing, like the scenes where he tells her how many peas she can eat. HAWT.

2. It's the first time I've ever seen a Dom/sub relationship portrayed as a loving, (somewhat) healthy one, that can actually work as a long term thing and not just a dungeon/sex/type situation.

I knew there was something to this kink, but I knew that the fetish clubs I visited was not what I was into. This movie just helped me verbalize that need to be controlled but still loved, if that makes any sense.

[BrownEyedBtch]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

I blame the guy in the particular case i mentioned because i don't understand how can somebody who has no job, no house and yet an education and a presumed high IQ, get a girl pregnant then get kicked out of her house for being a leech, and start dating again mouthing off how he wants to have another baby and forgetting about the ones he already has, like having one is some kind of a funny game.

The decione should be case-based and in that case (who actually got me a bit mad about the issue) he should be neutered like the animal he is.

Why is he doing it? BECAUSE HE CAN. There's no shortage of idiotic women with absolutely no self esteem who will fall for this guy's bullshit and get roped in by him, left with a baby and debt. It is a game to him, and he doesn't care because he doesn't have to. He could be up to his eyeballs in child support debt, and it won't matter because debt doesn't keep his dick in his pants. While he's no angel and does deserve to be locked up (I think failure to pay child support deserves jail time), the dumb bitches shoulder just as much of the blame as the guys do, if not more.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by punk'n

I knew there was something to this kink, but I knew that the fetish clubs I visited was not what I was into. This movie just helped me verbalize that need to be controlled but still loved, if that makes any sense.

Sorry punk'n, i didn't mean to question your taste specifically. It's just i know a few people who didn't know about sub/dom relationship and learned about it with "Secretary", but it shows a very light version of those things, and i find it a nice movie but not so groundbreaking.

Something similar happened when Velvet Goldmine came out. I used to hang out with a lot of musicians and glam rock fans back then, and they all suddenly discovered bisexuality and androginism after watching that movie, while i've always thought that "Rocky horror picture show" is way more interesting on those topics.

I'm being a snob. Somebody kick me...

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

Sorry punk'n, i didn't mean to question your taste specifically. It's just i know a few people who didn't know about sub/dom relationship and learned about it with "Secretary", but it shows a very light version of those things, and i find it a nice movie but not so groundbreaking.

Something similar happened when Velvet Goldmine came out. I used to hang out with a lot of musicians and glam rock fans back then, and they all suddenly discovered bisexuality and androginism after watching that movie, while i've always thought that "Rocky horror picture show" is way more interesting on those topics.

I'm being a snob. Somebody kick me...

*kicks Junkenstein*

Did you like that?! DID YOU!? RARRRRRR!!


See how bad I am at being a sadist? *shrug*