O doctorsleep, where art thou?

[Cretaceous Bob]

I don't remember as much of my own history as Dopler Skeep has regaled us with about himself.

Dopler Skeep was born in a d4 soul and love is a DC 10.

[EatTheWeak]

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

... these guys get to have these women

You're still using possessive language. Get it through your head: no one ever "has" anyone. That's not what companionship is about.

There are too many logical fallacies to address in the bio you posted, sleep - here's what I will say though: that advice you keep getting about doing your own thing? The advice that makes you furious? It's the only thing that actually works. Know why? Because when a person has pride and strength within themselves, they cannot be put out of joint by the minor setbacks you have described here as devastating. Shit like that isn't even on the radar of a self-assured man - it bounces right off his prow if he even notices it at all. An old flame wants to date a loser landmass of a fellow? That's not evidence of your unacceptability but rather of her poor judgment. (also, it's pretty hilarious)

Earlier, I asked you to list five things you like, five non-dating related experiences. You listed them, but then dismissed each of them as an avenue to companionship. That is to say, you're still thinking of everything you do in terms of dating, so you've missed the point (shock of shocks). You shouldn't be writing because it will directly lead to dating, you should write because you love to do it, because it gives you satisfaction to produce a well-turned phrase or exciting story. You should write (or do whatever) because when you do it, you get a feeling of pride and accomplishment and satisfaction that has nothing to do with anyone you may or may not date and everything to do with the joy in a job well done for it's own sake.

That feeling lets all the air out of negative self-perception. In its place, confidence begins to appear. It will feel strange at first, like arrogance almost. The self-hating can mistake self-respect for an overlarge ego because everything looks overlarge when you're starting from zero. You do something that satisfies you not because it gets you a date or a girlfriend but because your accomplishments (in any field at all that satisfies you) give you swagger. And that is what gets you dates. You see self-respect as something useless to pursue because you're leaving out this crucial middle step.

You require swagger, sir - none of the petty shit you described would bother a man who had it. I'm dead right about this, as has been every single person who has ever told you the same. If you truly want to make positive changes in your life, you will listen for a change.

God damn it though, I got sucked in again with no more hope of success than before. I wish I could quit you, sleep.

[doctorsleep]

Originally Posted by EatTheWeak

There are too many logical fallacies to address in the bio you posted, sleep - here's what I will say though: that advice you keep getting about doing your own thing? The advice that makes you furious? It's the only thing that actually works. Know why? Because when a person has pride and strength within themselves, they cannot be put out of joint by the minor setbacks you have described here as devastating. Shit like that isn't even on the radar of a self-assured man - it bounces right off his prow if he even notices it at all. An old flame wants to date a loser landmass of a fellow? That's not evidence of your unacceptability but rather of her poor judgment. (also, it's pretty hilarious)

is it though? i mean, its not like I have dated anyone, much less anyone better. Now that they are dating he has been hanging out with us and I have to look at his fat fucking neckbeard face and think "really? THAT is the guy who beat me? you wont even think about dating me for a second but THAT is who you love more then anyone else?"

What the fuck am I supposed to think about myself?

It's not like when we were in highschool and he had a job and a car. This fat bastard is one of the few people in the world that I KNOW I am better then, yet its still not enough for me to be in a relationship. (is that possesive)

[EatTheWeak]

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

What the fuck am I supposed to think about myself?

In relation to her dating Johnny Neckbeard? Nothing. It's got nothing to do with you. Know what a proper response to seeing some slob get his dick wet would be? Joy. Relief. Outright fucking glee. You're going about it all backwards. Consider what's before you right now! CONCRETE EVIDENCE that unattractive dudes still experience intimacy! Furthermore, they experience intimacy with the kind of women you're attracted to. You should be leaping out of the tub and shouting EUREKA about this. You should be thinking "FYSY, if this sorry slob can mack then anyone can, myself included!" You should feel like you just watched a cripple win the Superbowl and be thinking, "Holy shit, look what he's done in spite of all his handicaps - handicaps that I don't have. It's gonna be so fucking easy if I decide to really get in the game."

This should be a watershed moment for you. Don't lose it to petty, jealous resentment.

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

for me to be in a relationship. (is that possesive)

No, actually. Well done. It doesn't suggest your ownership of a person but rather your participation in a partnership. See the subtle, crucial difference there?

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

is it though? i mean, its not like I have dated anyone, much less anyone better. Now that they are dating he has been hanging out with us and I have to look at his fat fucking neckbeard face and think "really? THAT is the guy who beat me? you wont even think about dating me for a second but THAT is who you love more then anyone else?"

What the fuck am I supposed to think about myself?

It's not like when we were in highschool and he had a job and a car. This fat bastard is one of the few people in the world that I KNOW I am better then, yet its still not enough for me to be in a relationship. (is that possesive)

I think we can all agree the MVP gets theirs. But if you watch the show, most of the time when they're out and about, they're not creeping. They're either getting their GTL, checking out a barber shop, or pulling pranks. Even at the Shore Store, they're mostly just hanging out.

When Ronnie goes to lunch with Snookie at the bar, he's not looking to smush. Even when he and Sammi are having relationship problems. And you know he's better than Jionni.

So ETW is correct.

[lizzy1e]

Something cheesy for the whine.

[Sapgreenpeppers]

Sleep, you won't listen to me (mostly because you haven't listened to anyone, or because I'm a woman, I'm overweight, I'm telling the truth...take your pick), but life is not a contest. ETW is right, if life is not a contest, then women are not prizes. Lord knows that some days I am no prize.

I didn't have a relationship longer than 2 weeks before a year ago. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 23 (do the math, that's after college). I was picked on as a kid, and the fat girl with a big mouth in middle school and high school. Guess what, college WAS some of the best years of my life, without a boyfriend or getting laid. Because that was not the only standard I did and do continue to judge myself by.

We all feel worthless sometimes. Misery is a country you visit for a couple of weeks. Stop living there. Stop making misery a comfortable spot on your couch and fixing it a cup of tea. Turn off the fucking internet, and stop asking the outside world to validate you as a human.

I was chatting with a girl I know last week who hasn't had sex since she was 19 (we're both 29). It HAPPENS. Learn to deal, couple hood IS NOT the only part of life. Get an education, get a job, travel, start making your life what you wanted it to be, by yourself. To quote you: EARN THAT SHIT THE HARD WAY.

I did. And if you think its easier for me as a girl-news: IT'S NOT.

[Sapgreenpeppers]

And fuck, I got sucked in again. Damn days off.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by EatTheWeak

This should be a watershed moment for you.

wrong

Originally Posted by Sapgreenpeppers

And fuck, I got sucked in again. Damn days off.[/IMG]

i'm disappointed with all who propagate this . . sadness (except Bob whom I revere and DW who amuses me).

but not you sleep. you are a significant man who, like so many Travis Bickles, is destined for greatness.

[Jo_Culprit]

Same old bullshit

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

These guys get women, there fore they are better then me, most of these guys are garbage, there fore i am worse then garbage

Dude fuck you, I'm pretty sure I already explained why this chick is getting duped by those fatsos along with all your other shit.

- Nice is not a personality
- A girl isn't going to want to date someone that has exposed tremendous amounts of weakness to her because it emasculates the dude in her eyes.
- A girl will never want to date someone who is a ball of rage wondering why no one will date them.

Everytime I tell you what you can do to help yourself, you make a dumb lazy counterpoint and use it as an excuse to do NOTHING

Pick your balls up off the mantle and stop fucken bleeding weakness to everyone. Do you really think you can make any positive progress if you hold onto your weak bitch self image?

Do you think we get more than one chance at life? do you think your gonna get a re-do somewhere along the line? Line is too fucken short to waste time being a weak bitch, be nothing but as the person you want to be. You're gonna fucken grow old and die someday and then thats it, who gives a shit about your past and your ego bullshit it won't matter in the end. All you do is hold yourself back. Go fucken take a bunch of psychadelics.