O doctorsleep, where art thou?

[doctorsleep]

Originally Posted by campy

I cannot STAND that you equal yourself to other nerdy types who are too shy and inexperienced to get laid...you are NOT ONE OF THEM. You are a creepy sniveling twerp , you are the reason girls go to the bathroom together, bring pepper spray with them to parties, the reason they learn self defense. I've wished you luck in the past but frankly, nothing will save you. move on, or don't, wallow, or don't...it is all irrelevant where you are concerned.
I will keep reading what the Katgers have to say though because it's gold.

I know I have an anger problem but it is insulting when people treat me like I'm some kind of psycho rapist.

All I've said is that I really really want a girlfriend, I know that when this all started I had that stupid fucking list but I'm over most of it now. I don't care if a girl is a virgin or any of that other stuff. All I want is the fucking same exact thing everyone else wants and you have no fucking right to make me feel like a monster beacuse of it!

[EatTheWeak]

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

people treat me like I'm some kind of psycho rapist.

Is it not yet clear to you that this has rather a lot to do with how often you talk like some kind of psycho rapist?

The anger, the dehumanization, the desperate lust and the placement of all responsibility for that lust and frustration upon women that have nothing to do with it? Your constant drumbeat of "most women are shitty people" if you acknowledge them as people at all? Your assertion that women who aren't immediately available and willing to fuck you are "useless?" The fixation, the grudge holding, the hatehatehatehatehate?

These are all the kinds of things you hear from boys (not men, to be very fucking clear) who are likely to hurt women. Many of your comments would not look at all out of place in George Sodini's journals (I think you make many of the same persistent spelling mistakes, in fact).

You keep insisting that you want what "everyone else wants." In terms of companionship. You don't. You're not even remotely prepared to be any kind of partner to anyone. Know the one thing harder than being single? Being in a relationship. It's wonderful stuff, yes, but it's also very difficult. It never goes quite like you expect. You experience entirely new frustrations and disappointments. This is an inevitability when human beings become entangled. You do not see women as human beings, full stop. Your interest in what a woman wants out of life begins and ends with whether or not they are interested in you, whether or not she's willing to validate you constantly at all times. The minute she isn't, you declare her "useless."

Your ideal woman would have no more agency or self-possession than a Real Doll. Maybe you should start saving your money up for one.

[doctorsleep]

Originally Posted by EatTheWeak

Is it not yet clear to you that this has rather a lot to do with how often you talk like some kind of psycho rapist?

The anger, the dehumanization, the desperate lust and the placement of all responsibility for that lust and frustration upon women that have nothing to do with it? Your constant drumbeat of "most women are shitty people" if you acknowledge them as people at all? Your assertion that women who aren't immediately available and willing to fuck you are "useless?" The fixation, the grudge holding, the hatehatehatehatehate?

These are all the kinds of things you hear from boys (not men, to be very fucking clear) who are likely to hurt women. Many of your comments would not look at all out of place in George Sodini's journals (I think you make many of the same persistent spelling mistakes, in fact).

You keep insisting that you want what "everyone else wants." In terms of companionship. You don't. You're not even remotely prepared to be any kind of partner to anyone. Know the one thing harder than being single? Being in a relationship. It's wonderful stuff, yes, but it's also very difficult. It never goes quite like you expect. You experience entirely new frustrations and disappointments. This is an inevitability when human beings become entangled. You do not see women as human beings, full stop. Your interest in what a woman wants out of life begins and ends with whether or not they are interested in you, whether or not she's willing to validate you constantly at all times. The minute she isn't, you declare her "useless."

Your ideal woman would have no more agency or self-possession than a Real Doll. Maybe you should start saving your money up for one.

Like I said, yes I have a HUGE anger problem. I say those fucked up things when I'm angry, but god damn it I'm so sick of being alone. I have no idea what a relationship will be like. but it HAS to be better then this. i know it wont be perfect, all these problems I have now are probably going to manifest themselves as something like being jelous of her exes, being suspcious of her male friends, stuff like that.

But NEVER harm. I could never harm a woman. I see these pieces of garbage who get women. me and my friends were drinking outside one night and from down the street we could hear a woman fucking screaming at her husband to stop hitting her. I can't even comprehend what kind of monster could do that to a woman, much less a woman who loves him.

I don't know what a relationship is like, but whatever it is I know when i find it I'm going to do everything I can to make it work.

But i can NOT be alone anymore, I can't do this anymore I hate this so much, I don't see any point in life at all, I'm tired of not having anyone else to live for. I want to be able to show love and compassion and care for a change, I'm sick of there just being nothing in my life.

[Lanfear]

I am 100% sure that you will harm a woman if you every manage to get one.
You will be suspicious of every other male (or female give you bisexual hangups) she talks to, you will never feel secure in yourself and therefore terrorize her with your attention whore needs, you won't see her as an equal partner.
Maybe there is a slim chance you might not resort to physical violence (although I am not convinced) but you will abuse her emotionally, you will try to manipulate her, you will try to emotionally blackmail her and you will probably talk a lot of shit about her behind her back and that is all abuse.

As Dan Savage says it in his campsite rule "you must leave them in at least as good a state (physically and emotionally) as you found them in" - that will not be true after somebody is in a relationship with current you because you are a barely holding it together shitbag of anger and selfloathing.

[doctorsleep]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

I am 100% sure that you will harm a woman if you every manage to get one.
You will be suspicious of every other male (or female give you bisexual hangups) she talks to, you will never feel secure in yourself and therefore terrorize her with your attention whore needs, you won't see her as an equal partner.
Maybe there is a slim chance you might not resort to physical violence (although I am not convinced) but you will abuse her emotionally, you will try to manipulate her, you will try to emotionally blackmail her and you will probably talk a lot of shit about her behind her back and that is all abuse.

As Dan Savage says it in his campsite rule "you must leave them in at least as good a state (physically and emotionally) as you found them in" - that will not be true after somebody is in a relationship with current you because you are a barely holding it together shitbag of anger and selfloathing.

But if this doesn't fix me then what will!

I know, you have all told me a hundreds of times that a relationship isn't going to be what fixes me.

But I think of all the bad in my life, all the reasons I cry at night, all the things that make me feel hallow and empty.

Its all because I don't have a girlfriend.

Its the only thing I want.

And when I get it and it ends, well at least Ill know its possible, at least I'll finally have kissed a girl and made love, and done everything else and finally get caught up to everyone else.

I know I'm going to be jealous, likely more then a normal guy, but I want to get a girlfriend so I can grow and finally get over these issues once I get in a relationship and see that its not a big deal.

How can I not be jealous, every girl has already been with so many guys, and most guys are much MUCH better then me. If I had any value at all I would have gotten a fucking girlfriend by now so how can i not be jealous when the only reason I'm ever going to get a girlfriend is trick her into settling for me

[Sapgreenpeppers]

Oh, my GOD. Fucking listen to yourself. Your life is YOUR life. It doesn't have to be empty or meaningless just because you don't have a girlfriend. Everyone is absolutely right, you will harm a woman that dates you with your CRAZY, OBSESSIVE, INSANE shit.

This is an OBSESSION. It is NOT HEALTHY. It will HARM people around you and yourself.

Do you know what I suck at? Math. Do you know what I don't do? Make my entire life and self worth based upon whether or not I can become a fucking accountant.

Fix your own shit, and find something worth living for. ALONE.

You want some truth about life and the people that surround you? The Wire said it way better that I can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pO2mdVpN20

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by Sapgreenpeppers

Do you know what I suck at? Math. Do you know what I don't do? Make my entire life and self worth based upon whether or not I can become a fucking accountant.

Can you please not imply that accountants are good at math. As an aspiring Mathematician, I find this highly offensive.

[doctorsleep]

But what is the point to all the rest of this bullshit if there isn't anything good on the other side of it.

I can try to forget about it as much as I want but i am so fucking tired of being single. I just want this over already, I want to fucking see what the other side of life is.

Again, nothing can be worse then being single, short of something that happens to END the relationship.

Yes I'm obsessed! how can anyone not be obsessed, its the single greatest thing in the world! Everything else means NOTHING compared to getting in a relationship.

[Sapgreenpeppers]

Originally Posted by doctorsleep

Everything else means NOTHING compared to getting in a relationship.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I'm going to take a bath and slice wrists. See, I told your obsessive behavior hurts people.

[doctorsleep]

I know that I have shown nothing but bad here. But god damn it, i see such pieces of fucking garbage have women that love them, why can't I have that?

What the hell am I supposed to think of women when time and time again I see them with these neglectful, drug addicted, unemployed, assholes.

And if these guys who do date women are this bad then how awful must I be.

You all always call me this rapist monster, someone that is going to hurt a woman, someone that is going to abuse a woman.

IF I WAS THAT KIND OF GUY THEN I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN A GIRLFRIEND BY NOW

(sorry using fucking possessive tense again but its the easiest way to refer to being in the state of knowing a female who would refer to herself as being an exclusive relationship partner to me)