PIG CHARMERS

[The Godfather]

Originally Posted by cogy

here ya go: http://snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

As we say in Cali, Gracias.

[devilishone]

Believe me on this fact, religious zealots will find a way around ANYTHING you try to do, bury them with pigs, answer, "your soul is sent to heaven to join mohammed as soon as you martyr yoursel, burial is not an issue". The very act of martyrdom removes the consideration that your body will ever be buried in a muslim fashion so why would it make any difference if a pig was thrown in? Torture of live subject with pig is a different issue though, but so is torture in general.

[Nihility]

This isn't a dispute over money or land or possessions. It's a dispute over them not thinking you have a right to live.

Your very existence is a blight on this world and you need to die. It is their job to make sure that you do.
Becoming a "shahid" (martyr) is just about as close as you can get to being a pop star in that culture. If you are a father and have 7 sons, your only wish for their future will be that they die in Allah's name. There is no respect for life and even less so for westerners life.

Wars are usually resolved by either compromise or the complete elimination of the opposing side. You can't really compromise with someone who just wants you to die and does not care if he dies in the process (them not caring bout dying is the best part, makes attacking them ineffective). Men, women and children are all possible Shahids in the making.
Obviously the leaders of these people aren't going around blowing themselves up, they also don't live in shit-holes. So there's really no reason for them to try and change the situation.

[deznice]

Originally Posted by Cubby

Annnnnnd you're done.

I've been done for a long time now. I meant that quote as a joke, hopefully it was perceived that way

[DaveNJ]

Interesting strategy. I have a similar one: for every pound of explosive detonated in an act of terror against us or our allies, a pound of explosive will be detonated on the Kaaba. After that, the Mosque of Medina, and after that, the al-Aqsa Mosque. Very simple.

[Daemonik]

I've never understood how Muslim apologists like Europe can constantly harp on Christian Evangelical extremism in the US, but act like taking a bomb and a copy of the Quran onto a bus load of Israeli children is perfectly acceptable 'resistance' tactics. Pat Robertson might be a dick, but he never asked his followers to bomb school buses.

I agree that the US should continue to support Israel and I think that we should be raking the UN over the coals for the current situation. Kofi Anon's speeches asking for a UN mission to Lebanon seem to be glossing over the fact that the UN has had a mission there since before Israel pulled out of Lebanon the first time. How exactly did Hezbollah build up their missile stockpiles right under the UN's nose and the UN wants to act like they have a moral right to manage a peaceful solution?

Why hasn't the UN removed Hezbollah from Lebanon and returned full control of the country back into the hands of the Lebanese government, as the mission that placed them there requires them to do?

[Laphroaig]

Originally Posted by deznice

As most of us have heard by now, the British government has foiled an attempted terrorist plot by a group of 21 Pakistani men earlier this morning. What they were planning on doing, allegedly, was to sneak bombs on to aircraft bound for the United States, disguised in liquid bottles. Thankfully, this treacherous plot was found out just in time, but this is gotta stop. Just minutes ago, I read another article about airport delays, and people not being able to bring shampoo bottles on airplanes now. What a bunch of bullshit! Why are we letting nutcases dictate how we live our lives? Fuck that! You want to get rid of suicide terrorists, of the Islamic extremists kind, anyway, this is what you do...

Take these 21 Pakistani losers, and shot them, executioner style, with bullets soaked in PIG blood. You know what, I bet if that were to happen, that would pretty much be the end of this sad trend.

What is the allure of blowing yourself up, and taking out numerous others along the way? For most normal people, nothing. For sick, twisted, Islamic extremists, it means being able to leave this life, which for most of them, isn't filled with money, ho's, sex, and weed, and go to heaven, to meet Allah, and snag 72 virgins. But if there body's are exposed to pig remains, it just won't happen!

Why?

Because the pig is considered the dirties, of dirty, animals, according to their faith. So what that would mean, in a nutshell, is no virgins for them. Just death, and nothing else.

There would go the incentive to being a martyr.

But we would never do that. Nor would the British. No, we have to kowtow to these people, and do our best not to offend. To me, that's some dumb-ass bullshit. We need to be hard! We need to show the rest of the world, we ain't playin'.

Israel does that.

They get a few solders kidnapped in Lebanon, and they go ape-shit, and start a war over it. Why? Well, its because they believe in the theory of if you give someone an inch, they'll take a mile. They don't fuck around, and neither should we!

What do you say? Should we start getting raw, and hard-core? Or should we just pacify these turds, and wait for them to strike next?

Quiet down everyone - I'm on the phone to Oslo. I think we have a late nomination for the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize.

[The Godfather]

"your soul is sent to heaven to join mohammed as soon as you martyr yoursel, burial is not an issue". The very act of martyrdom removes the consideration that your body will ever be buried in a muslim fashion so why would it make any difference if a pig was thrown in?

Great point. Suicide and killing other Muslims is a no-no, but it hasn't stopped guys from strapping on bombs and killing innocent civilians.

[jwdd27]

Originally Posted by Nihility

This isn't a dispute over money or land or possessions. It's a dispute over them not thinking you have a right to live.

Your very existence is a blight on this world and you need to die. It is their job to make sure that you do.
Becoming a "shahid" (martyr) is just about as close as you can get to being a pop star in that culture. If you are a father and have 7 sons, your only wish for their future will be that they die in Allah's name. There is no respect for life and even less so for westerners life.

Wars are usually resolved by either compromise or the complete elimination of the opposing side. You can't really compromise with someone who just wants you to die and does not care if he dies in the process (them not caring bout dying is the best part, makes attacking them ineffective). Men, women and children are all possible Shahids in the making.
Obviously the leaders of these people aren't going around blowing themselves up, they also don't live in shit-holes. So there's really no reason for them to try and change the situation.

So is every muslim like that, Nihility?

You're a know-nothing kid, and where you're from affects your prejudices.

PEACE,
JoeL.

[Cubby]

Originally Posted by Nihility

This isn't a dispute over money or land or possessions. It's a dispute over them not thinking you have a right to live.

Your very existence is a blight on this world and you need to die. It is their job to make sure that you do.
Becoming a "shahid" (martyr) is just about as close as you can get to being a pop star in that culture. If you are a father and have 7 sons, your only wish for their future will be that they die in Allah's name. There is no respect for life and even less so for westerners life.

Wars are usually resolved by either compromise or the complete elimination of the opposing side. You can't really compromise with someone who just wants you to die and does not care if he dies in the process (them not caring bout dying is the best part, makes attacking them ineffective). Men, women and children are all possible Shahids in the making.
Obviously the leaders of these people aren't going around blowing themselves up, they also don't live in shit-holes. So there's really no reason for them to try and change the situation.

This may be one of the least-informed, ass-originated statements I have heard here. Literally all violence performed by Muslims toward the west has been done by fundamentalist Muslims. They make up 7% of all the Muslims in the world. You are simply assuming that all Muslims are violent and this makes you an arrogant, racist asshole.

Yes, I did say racist, because I'm sure you are only referencing Muslims of middle-eastern descent. I doubt you think that Dave Chappelle wants his kids to die for Allah. He is a Muslim. This religion has so many people world-wide that there is no way they can all be from the middle east, yet you are basing all your statements on this assumption.

And are you seriously suggesting we kill all Muslims in the middle east? You fucking asshole.