Shuck N Jive (watermelon song)

sagzy · 08-09-2009, 12:57 PM

Now, am I the only one who has this song going on a loop in their head over and over again.
The video content may be downright retarded but those two do make a point. For some inexplicable reason i get drawn to music absolutely devoid of any intelligence (eg. stanky leg, superman dat hoe.....etc) even though i know how bad this shit is. But i do agree, they do have a valid point

jeffdrafttech · 08-09-2009, 01:51 PM

the first result for "shuck and jive" at youtube is this

Assuming that this is what you're talking about...

No, most people don't see hip hop or black people like this.

I, and most of humanity (regardless of race) do see gangster hip hop as an embrace of crime and lack of intelligence.

I do see hip hop culture as rebellion by young people as a way of dismissing ridiculous, religious, and racist viewpoints of old fogies. 1/2-generation ago we had the same thing, only we had long-haired earring-wearing gay-looking makeup-wearing biker types.

I do think you're pretty fucking stupid if you embrace mainstream marketed hip-hop but it has nothing to do with race. I don't respect you for being a childish tool, rather than not respecting you because of your race.

If you dig mainstream hip-hop, go right ahead, but you should question your intelligence if it is what you spend your dispensable income on. It's shit and makes you look stupid.

EastTexas · 08-09-2009, 05:27 PM

They think the "corporate world" perpetuated this stereotype.
The artists wrote about their own experiences in their neighbohoods, and other people related to it and bought.
The "corporate world" gave you an outlet to push your ideas to the public. Sorry your fans liked and emulate what you told them.
I don't think the suits were the only ones profiting off of it either.

The guys are dumbasses.

spooky · 08-09-2009, 08:03 PM

Strictly regarding the content:

Is anyone still alive that remembers blackface being a part of pop culture? It's before my grandfather's time, I find it hard to care about this either way. I want to be offended, I suppose. But I'm not, it's just too far in the past for me. I get how it can be a joke, though, like giving Canadians shit over the war of 1812, but I don't actually feel bad. I think funny can be timeless. /shrug

Articthunder666 · 08-09-2009, 08:28 PM

i was supposed to be offended?

entropy357 · 08-09-2009, 11:30 PM

I only remember a few rappers/rap groups that tried to write empowering lyrics. Public Enemy, maybe BDP some of the time, Paris. Who else?

Mikey · 08-10-2009, 12:47 AM

i like the beat.

serial_x · 08-10-2009, 01:59 AM

This song is worse than "My Name Is Ben Lerman" for being stuck in my head. I'm guessing my co-workers are also sick of being told to "eat that watermelon".

Mikey · 08-10-2009, 01:43 PM

show is goood!

i like this song AND i happen to like watamelon too

better dylan · 08-11-2009, 02:07 AM

massa is comin... massa is comin

08-09-2009, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
sagzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beantown, MA Posts: 284	Shuck N Jive (watermelon song) Now, am I the only one who has this song going on a loop in their head over and over again. The video content may be downright retarded but those two do make a point. For some inexplicable reason i get drawn to music absolutely devoid of any intelligence (eg. stanky leg, superman dat hoe.....etc) even though i know how bad this shit is. But i do agree, they do have a valid point
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08-09-2009, 01:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
jeffdrafttech Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 2,237	the first result for "shuck and jive" at youtube is this Assuming that this is what you're talking about... No, most people don't see hip hop or black people like this. I, and most of humanity (regardless of race) do see gangster hip hop as an embrace of crime and lack of intelligence. I do see hip hop culture as rebellion by young people as a way of dismissing ridiculous, religious, and racist viewpoints of old fogies. 1/2-generation ago we had the same thing, only we had long-haired earring-wearing gay-looking makeup-wearing biker types. I do think you're pretty fucking stupid if you embrace mainstream marketed hip-hop but it has nothing to do with race. I don't respect you for being a childish tool, rather than not respecting you because of your race. If you dig mainstream hip-hop, go right ahead, but you should question your intelligence if it is what you spend your dispensable income on. It's shit and makes you look stupid. __________________ Drink more yummy beer Beer Blog Beer News
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08-09-2009, 05:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
EastTexas Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,259	They think the "corporate world" perpetuated this stereotype. The artists wrote about their own experiences in their neighbohoods, and other people related to it and bought. The "corporate world" gave you an outlet to push your ideas to the public. Sorry your fans liked and emulate what you told them. I don't think the suits were the only ones profiting off of it either. The guys are dumbasses.
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08-09-2009, 08:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
spooky Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,265	Strictly regarding the content: Is anyone still alive that remembers blackface being a part of pop culture? It's before my grandfather's time, I find it hard to care about this either way. I want to be offended, I suppose. But I'm not, it's just too far in the past for me. I get how it can be a joke, though, like giving Canadians shit over the war of 1812, but I don't actually feel bad. I think funny can be timeless. /shrug
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08-09-2009, 08:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Articthunder666 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Posts: 326	i was supposed to be offended?
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08-09-2009, 11:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
entropy357 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 22	I only remember a few rappers/rap groups that tried to write empowering lyrics. Public Enemy, maybe BDP some of the time, Paris. Who else?
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08-10-2009, 12:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mikey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gran, you might have noticed that my boyfriend glitters. It's just something that he does in the sun Posts: 4,704	i like the beat.
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08-10-2009, 01:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
serial_x Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 995	This song is worse than "My Name Is Ben Lerman" for being stuck in my head. I'm guessing my co-workers are also sick of being told to "eat that watermelon".
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08-10-2009, 01:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mikey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gran, you might have noticed that my boyfriend glitters. It's just something that he does in the sun Posts: 4,704	show is goood! i like this song AND i happen to like watamelon too
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