Is there a God?

[Ubertapper]

You are discussing semantics. You need to stop calling yourself an atheist. You are a deist. There is a distinction. I think your Supreme Architect would agree... or not because of the deanthropomorphic nature of this non theology.

[Ubertapper]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Is Moore

I merely think that it's too much of a coincidence to me that the universe exists, and life miraculously appeared. I don't believe in Christianities god, but I do believe that there is a higher power out there, be it a time loop, a deity, or some other thing my mind couldn't even comprehend. Or there's a possibility that I am the only being, and everything else is just my imagination. I DIDN'T say that it just magically "poofed" the world into existence.

Do you understand those theories? I don't really know what ones you're talking about, so I can't really refute that. As for my not using my IQ, I have. That's how I reached my conclusion.
Why can't you accept that I have a different view than you? That's like me saying that killing small animals and children is fun, you saying it's not, and me saying back to you "I'm right, and you're a fucktard for not agreeing with me."

In short, I'm not going to pretend that I know what the origin of the universe is. It very well may be the case that your idea of what it is really is the truth, but we both don't know FOR SURE what is. That's why it's up for debate. Because we DON'T FUCKING KNOW, AND WE NEVER WILL. So please stop spouting bullshit, and use YOUR head.

Good points. Thanks for the perspective

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Ubertapper

You are discussing semantics. You need to stop calling yourself an atheist. You are a deist. There is a distinction. I think your Supreme Architect would agree... or not because of the deanthropomorphic nature of this non theology.

Wow, are you really this intensely simple? Is a respect for other beliefs that are not harmful and an acknowledgment of lack of proof of one's own belief so foreign to you that you mistake them for believing in the thing itself?

And thus why I grill every aggressive atheist: they reveal themselves to be as colossally simple-minded as the Christians they criticize.

I am pure atheist down to my very bone marrow, and the fact that you cannot see respect of one belief coexisting with one's own belief proves my point about the woefully poor health of religious thought in this society.

[Sparrow]

Oh, Bob, I absolutely adore you.

[Malcolm Is Moore]

Originally Posted by Ubertapper

Good points. Thanks for the perspective

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[Ubertapper]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Wow, are you really this intensely simple? Is a respect for other beliefs that are not harmful and an acknowledgment of lack of proof of one's own belief so foreign to you that you mistake them for believing in the thing itself?

And thus why I grill every aggressive atheist: they reveal themselves to be as colossally simple-minded as the Christians they criticize.

I am pure atheist down to my very bone marrow, and the fact that you cannot see respect of one belief coexisting with one's own belief proves my point about the woefully poor health of religious thought in this society.

Yes. I am this simple. I don't have beliefs. I like science and love life. I love my family. It is that simple. I don't need verification of my ideas because they are just ideas. I think respect is something that should be earned, not just given freely. All I ask for is proof. Until then I live my life. I may jump in once in a while and provide an opinion, but that is all these discussions are. Back to studying. Have a good night people.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Is Moore

I get the feeling you're just trying to be funny and epically failing now. I didn't call myself an atheist. I didn't call myself anything intentionally so people wouldn't just categorize me into atheist, agnostic, or religious. But if I had to categorize myself it'd be agnostic, because I'm not sure. I'm NOT a deist. I don't concretely believe in anything at the moment. If you read my post, I included the time loop theory, the universe not really existing, true atheism and said that I don't know.

If you are trying to be funny, then you took it to the wrong thread.

I believe he is addressing me, as I am the one who brought up Deism. Perhaps I am wrong, but I interpret his previous attempt at associating me into a pre-established belief that is not my own rather than recognize the points of my argument as reason to believe he intends to tell me what I believe in.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Oh, Bob, I absolutely adore you.

Why thank you, milady.

[Ubertapper]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Is Moore

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

No sarcasm. You made a good point. Gave me something to think about.

[Malcolm Is Moore]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

I believe he is addressing me, as I am the one who brought up Deism. Perhaps I am wrong, but I interpret his previous attempt at associating me into a pre-established belief that is not my own rather than recognize the points of my argument as reason to believe he intends to tell me what I believe in.

Why thank you, milady.

Yea, I realized that right after I posted. So I deleted it. Hehe, yea......

Originally Posted by Ubertapper

No sarcasm. You made a good point. Gave me something to think about.

Ok, well I'm glad I didn't sound like a dumbass.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Ubertapper

Yes. I am this simple. I don't have beliefs. I like science and love life. I love my family. It is that simple. I don't need verification of my ideas because they are just ideas. I think respect is something that should be earned, not just given freely. All I ask for is proof. Until then I live my life. I may jump in once in a while and provide an opinion, but that is all these discussions are. Back to studying. Have a good night people.

If you're going to tuck your tail between your legs and scuttle off, maybe you shouldn't come into these threads with such aggression?

You are the precise problem I was talking about with that book: it persuades atheists who have not given the subject much thought at all the motivation to be arrogant and aggressive. No one should have to come in here and explain what constitutes a creator god and what doesn't, but thanks to Dawkins, your sort of posts must be weeded out of every single religious thread.