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View Poll Results: If a child commits murder with a parent’s gun, is the parent an accomplice?
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Old 02-15-2024, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Keith and Chemda tackle the most disturbing news of the day: the Kansas City parade mass shooting, the elementary school principal that pretended to shoot students in an active shooter drill, the 2-year-old black girl who was cuffed by a white child in a day care’s Rosa Parks reenactment, and Madame Web.

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The parents absolutely deserve to be arrested and found guilty. When the school said your kid is struggling come get him and they refused-they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. It was flat out neglect that resulted in the death of several people. He shouldn’t have had access to the gun.

As I parent I wouldn’t look at the journal but I’m keeping an eye on internet activity until they are 18 for their safety. There are so many psychos online. Journals are private.

Ethan displayed many signs and he was asking for help from his parents and they just ignored him. He at least plead guilty.

My parents got my brother a gun when he was 10 as well. It was locked in the basement with my dad’s other guns, in a gun safe behind a locked door and threats of severe consequences if we ever tried to get the gun without his supervision.


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Also I’m pretty sure it is illegal to restrain children in daycares and schools…so if they really restrained that kids hands they could be sued.


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There's a sports show and podcast called First Things First. One of the hosts is from Kansas City and all three hosts were at the rally yesterday. From about 10 minutes to 13:30 minutes into their latest podcast episode, I just heard one of the most heartbreaking takes about how the children at the parade had to lead their parents and grandparents to safety because kids know what to do in mass shootings. It's been a rough 24 hours here. 😪
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Cause they know what to do. God damn.
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There's a sports show and podcast called First Things First. One of the hosts is from Kansas City and all three hosts were at the rally yesterday. From about 10 minutes to 13:30 minutes into their latest podcast episode, I just heard one of the most heartbreaking takes about how the children at the parade had to lead their parents and grandparents to safety because kids know what to do in mass shootings. It's been a rough 24 hours here.

My daughter starts kindergarten in the fall and hearing about all of this and school shooting drills makes me anxious as fuck. It is unacceptable that it is going to be her normal.


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Kids knowing how to react in a mass shooting, while parents do not is tragic.
I feel like something is missing in the story, of the mass shooters parents being charged. The Parents being unable to post bond, so have been held in jail 2 years awaiting trial... This is the first of hearing this type of charge for parents, it makes me think there is something missing... That maybe these parents have past criminal records or possible a race, religious element. Maybe the School & Teacher, shooters written "Help" concern is enough & compelling to make the case against the parents. Thoughts
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My thoughts is when I see all their faces it’s like … something’s not good
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I just can't with guns. Nothing anybody says about owning makes sense. If you have a gun, you're likely to use it. That should be where the discussion ends. Even if you're using it for "protection." I saw a bumper sticker that made me realize what the "problem" with guns is. It's not necessarily that people own them, it's the attitude shift that happens when you do own one.

It showed a picture of a gun with the text: "Nothing inside is worth risking your life over. The owner is armed."

At first, that seems fairly benign. But think about it. Don't pay attention to what the other person is doing (which is breaking into your car). No matter their motivation or whether ot not they have no other choice, you can't control their behavior. You want to convey to someone that nothing in the car is worth their life. At the same time, as the owner, you're also saying that everything in the car is worth me killing for. And it's the fact that having the gun makes you okay with killing someone that's the issue. The prevalence of guns in society has numbed us to the fact that we're killing someone if we have it. And because the other person "deserves it," there's a massive disconnect since we constantly hear the rhetoric: the way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. What if you're both bad guys?

Anyway, I read an article that reminded me of Chemda's mention of the sad fact of active shooter drills in school. It's a kid from the Kansas City Chiefs's parade who recalled this training and was shot. It was not useful in this situation for other reasons and he ended up getting trampled on as well because of it. So I guess now we have to teach kids that a shooter in public requires a different strategy than a shooter in school. Cool world we've got.

Ban guns. The worst thing that would happen is less people die.

"Something something" to raise spirits after that....
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"Something something" to raise spirits after that....
Oh, Thank God! I was worried we'd have to actually do something about this problem.
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