1437: Into the Wild

[Keith]

Originally Posted by dEadERest

but i really wanna know and it's hurting my brain

I don't know what it is either, but assume it's extremely racist.

[punk'n]

Your thoughts on "Into the Wild" and Nutella are extremely controversial.

[Keith]

If Into the Wild is your favorite movie AND Nutella is your favorite treat, I can see the whole thing throwing somebody over the edge.

[swiggy]

Originally Posted by Snarky

There is a huge problem with nutrition in our country, mainly because we don’t understand how it affects us. If you follow an organic, all raw, all plant based diet, you are almost promised not to get any type of cancer or any chronic diseases[....] Food is an underlying cause for 99% of our problems, and it makes me sick.

I didn’t mean to go on a super hippi rant, I’m just passionate about nutrition, and I wish this information was more widespread.

What do you think of the following blog entry from a former Vegan?
A Vegan No More

Saying a "raw" diet will almost promise not to get cancers/diseases is something you should be cautious about saying, IMO it's a false hope (a big maybe). Plus many vegans don't follow that lifestyle diet properly and neglect their body.

On the topic of cancer and diet... If it were true, just diet, there would be more emphasis in cancer prevention and not "finding a cure" and there would be lower rates of middle to high income earners who get this disease. Don't get me wrong, I want a cure... But it seems this is a safety net to say to those who are afraid because a friend or a family member has had it in the past. It's something we can control tangibly, obsess over healthy living and it helps to forget the other factors.

There are so many other factors in a person other than diet that causes these illnesses, such as past history, physical activity, where you live (environment), your economic status, mental health etc. So what works for one may not work for another. Many skin cancers are neglect of prevention of protection of UVA/UVB rays. Dysgerminoma (Germ Cell Tumor) Ovarian cancer is still considered rare because it happens when the ovum is released and fails to migrate properly.

I say this as an ovarian cancer survivor (one spoken above) and experiencing it first hand at 15 years old; first in my province to have that kind of cancer at my age and 3rd in all of Canada at the time (2001). When speaking to doctors and RN's, I was surprised to learn how much goes into how to get rid of it instead of how to prevent it, and when you look into fundraisers a bit closer, it's advancements on treatment and not a cure (I'm sure politics from pharmaceuticals is a factor there) that gets the most money. Plus think of how many cooperations will lose millions, maybe more, because they can no longer use "breast cancer" (example) as a marketing tool? As sick as that sounds, it's reality. A lot of product sells because it has that pink ribbon on it.

I believe there is more to it than just "not understanding nutrition" for a lot of people, and poverty is a big one. If you're trying, and organic banana is 6 dollars and one with pesticides is only 2, you're on a tight budget, you'll go for the 2 dollar one. And it's thanks to human genetic mutation of certain seeds that places can grow their crops in severe weather conditions whereas those people would die off from starvation.

If you have the option to eat organic, great. I really hope it does prove beneficial. If you see those who don't, not the best to jump to lack reason of knowledge/understanding for everybody. But we can all agree that blatant ignorance (like you mentioned giving a young child a large coke and a (I assume) peperoni pizza or you only eat take-out, fast food or eating Nutella thinking it's healthy), should be pointed out and corrected as much as possible.

*throws two pennies at the forum*

[mcbane89]

Here's what Alaskan Park Ranger Peter Christian had to say about the Into The Wild guy, Christopher McCandless:


"When you consider McCandless from my perspective, you quickly see that what he did wasn't even particularly daring, just stupid, tragic, and inconsiderate. First off, he spent very little time learning how to actually live in the wild. He arrived at the Stampede Trail without even a map of the area. If he [had] had a good map he could have walked out of his predicament [... ] Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide."

And I'm sorry, I have to do it, I have to ask Becca, I'm dying to know:

What's Maine like, is it nice? I heard the weather is nice, is it?

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by mcbane89

Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide."

That was my initial reaction to that movie. Maybe Keith is right about the age thing. I never thought of the lead character as brave or inspirational. I thought of him as a dummy who killed himself. But I am old and jaded.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by punk'n

That was my initial reaction to that movie. Maybe Keith is right about the age thing. I never thought of the lead character as brave or inspirational. I thought of him as a dummy who killed himself. But I am old and jaded.

i heard that view before, it makes sense. i think the movie made him look way more inspirational because Sean Penn directed it and hes a silly hippie who likes to shove idealism into people's throats.

thats what made me so mad about the movie. If it was done like other movies about nutjobs who go to live "like wild men", take any Herzog film, it wouldve been bearable. but Penn had to make it full of "poetic" landscapes, "moving" moments and Vedder cleaning his throat (oh so intense).... and make the guy look sympathetic.....

not a coincidence, i think, that it became a hit in european countries, where all the hipster douches, viewed as a "manbifest of a man who goes against the capitalistic ideas of the US and fights to his death".

Everytime i told thos epeople the guy was an asshole and got the death he deserved, people tell me "you dont get it". fuck you, douches. i like showers and large meals and i'll burn your forests down.

[mcbane89]

Originally Posted by punk'n

That was my initial reaction to that movie. Maybe Keith is right about the age thing. I never thought of the lead character as brave or inspirational. I thought of him as a dummy who killed himself. But I am old and jaded.

I'm guessing age plays into it quite a bit, but there's also something romantic about telling the world to go fuck itself as we all get tired of it now and then. I think that's why you see movies like this pop up every so often (although at least this one showed the prententious douche dying), and why characters like House, John McClane, Simon Cowell, and Gordon Ramsey have such longevity. I pretty much had the same reaction you did because while I love to daydream about kicking my boss in the nuts, I also happen to like my paycheck and understand I can't live without it.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

i heard that view before, it makes sense. i think the movie made him look way more inspirational because Sean Penn directed it and hes a silly hippie who likes to shove idealism into people's throats.

thats what made me so mad about the movie. If it was done like other movies about nutjobs who go to live "like wild men", take any Herzog film, it wouldve been bearable. but Penn had to make it full of "poetic" landscapes, "moving" moments and Vedder cleaning his throat (oh so intense).... and make the guy look sympathetic.....

not a coincidence, i think, that it became a hit in european countries, where all the hipster douches, viewed as a "manbifest of a man who goes against the capitalistic ideas of the US and fights to his death".

Everytime i told thos epeople the guy was an asshole and got the death he deserved, people tell me "you dont get it". fuck you, douches. i like showers and large meals and i'll burn your forests down.

Also this...


and @JoshLatta: You told that wrong. It's "If you see a Spiderman riding a bike down the street, why don't you hit him with your car"?


Oh, and @LaurenHennessey: BangBus used to be real! They sold out and decided to start using porn actresses after they got a little cash. Check out the early episodes, and trust me, you've never seen those girls on any other sites, as odds are they were local amateurs.. or "professionals". Also, the episodes tend to be 2 hours long as the producer talks to these girls for about an hour at a time before any clothes start coming off. No one in real porn has that amount of patience. Even Dirty Sanchez.

[dEadERest]

Originally Posted by punk'n

I thought of him as a dummy who killed himself.

i thought of him as bear food delivery.

Originally Posted by mcbane89

and @JoshLatta: You told that wrong. It's "If you see a Spiderman riding a bike down the street, why don't you hit him with your car"?

now i really wanna know and i hope it's racist

[DWarrior]

Originally Posted by Snarky

Stupid shit

This is pretty stupid.