2162: Kissing & Screaming

[starscream]

I think Chemda would only advocate people fighting themselves. It's the only way to know for sure.

[KOUNTRY]

Originally Posted by starscream

I think Chemda would only advocate people fighting themselves. It's the only way to know for sure.

Ha ha that's funny shit. It drove me crazy every time she said something like there is always a edge with one of the fighters. It's very true but the goal is to keep the edge as slight as possible. Other wise why not just let Mike Tyson fight these girls sure he has a edge but he sounds kinda feminine.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Starline

I'd watch Co-ed MMA fights based on rank, weight, & height class. That sounds amazing.

I'd watch them even if they weren't based on rank, weight, or height class. In fact, I'd ESPECIALLY watch!

[ghauck]

Originally Posted by Keith

I'd watch them even if they weren't based on rank, weight, or height class. In fact, I'd ESPECIALLY watch!

I smell a Kickstarter for "Scumhook vs Fiona" extravaganza. I'd pay 59.99 for that pay per view.

Under card can be Danny vs Hugsy but she has to agree to not peeing on his leg as a distraction.

[Keith]

Hugs just smiled as if to say, "No promises."

[KOUNTRY]

Originally Posted by Keith

I'd watch them even if they weren't based on rank, weight, or height class. In fact, I'd ESPECIALLY watch!

I remember when there was no weight class in ufc. Really there was no rules except you couldn't do low blow or bite. But kick em in the head if you want while there down. Was fun to watch actually remember watching a very cool fight where a light heavy weight sized guy went to work on a big ole sumo. Ended up knocking him out. Those where the days when tank Abbott would come out and under style of fighting it said bar fighter, and he would even have a beer in the cage. Couple rules made it boring you could just wrap a guy up in a grapple move and nothing happens forever and they didn't make them stand up. Gracie did that all the time.

[FingerLakes]

Originally Posted by lilgoodlad

Chemda kept talking about how there can be minor differences in strength or bone density between competitors already. I am wondering if she thinks there shouldn't be any separation of genders in MMA, just match people up by weight class?

No she doesn't think that since she brought up, multiple times that she believes due to hormone therapy that woman who transitioned would have comparable muscle mass and to women born with a woman body. Her point throughout has been the body of both women being made the same due to chemical therapy and with that starting point them both training and weight lifting as an athlete would they should be on fair ground to fight each other.

I still disagree but I think her point was understandable and that she wasn't just arguing for arguing's sake as some in this thread seem to think

[lilgoodlad]

Originally Posted by FingerLakes

No she doesn't think that since she brought up, multiple times that she believes due to hormone therapy that woman who transitioned would have comparable muscle mass and to a women born with a woman body. Her point throughout has been the body of both women being made the same due to chemical therapy and with that starting point them both training and weight lifting as an athlete would they should be on fair ground to fight each other.

I still disagree but I think her point was understandable and that she wasn't just arguing for arguing's sake as some in this thread seem to think

Okay, thanks. I was hoping it was more along those lines.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by FingerLakes

I still disagree but I think her point was understandable and that she wasn't just arguing for arguing's sake as some in this thread seem to think

She keeps asserting that she has presented facts and that Keith has yet to refute them, but mostly they are not facts because we do not have them. (I mean, science doesn't and we, as in us here, definitely do not have them.) At best she is applying things she knows about transgender therapy to a context that, as far as anyone knows, it doesn't apply to. So yes, understandable as in I comprehend what she is saying, but not understandable in a broader way as in she doesn't understand what's she's talking about because she can't because no one does.

And in the absence of facts, MMA has decided to err on the side of not being sued and us talking about it endlessly and that is understandable.

Really the only question here is one of belief and that argument never ends.