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[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by marina

I had no idea children needed so many pieces cut off before they could come home with you.

There are a ton of minor corrective surgeries for things like jaw placement, a droopy eye, and so on. It's not all cutting stuff off, but there are quite a few procedures parents authorize for infants to improve quality of life.

So while you may not find a slightly droopy eye or lopsided face as an issue, some families do, and choose to correct it.

[incognegro13x]

Originally Posted by marina

I started, but it was so crap. I looked at the character list, and it's for sure anti-Semitic. Like, this guy's a mega douche.

But it is weird that people who don't believe in circumcision are kind of expected to say things like "mutilating your baby is wrong, yea... unless God says you should, of course." It's not that I think Jews are silly specifically, but they're the only ones cutting baby dick in the name of the lord (actually some Muslims do too if I'm not mistaken). I'd rather religious types just stick to psychological damage, I mean, if they have to damage their children at all, which they seem to have to do*


*but don't we all, in one way or another?

I did some more research on this guy before I posted it and have I come to believe he is some much against circumcisions that his anti-semitism went hand in hand. He is mentioned elsewhere supporting products that help you regain your foreskin.

[marina]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

So while you may not find a slightly droopy eye or lopsided face as an issue, some families do, and choose to correct it.

I think that there's some difference between fixing a droopy eye and cutting off a perfectly good piece of your baby because you think God only recognizes his people by their penis shape.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by marina

I think that there's some difference between fixing a droopy eye and cutting off a perfectly good piece of your baby because you think God only recognizes his people by their penis shape.

So beauty of the eye > beauty of the penis?

Gotcha

[marina]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

So beauty of the eye > beauty of the penis?

Gotcha

Having a droopy eye affects one's ability to see properly. Also, it's not like every child is born with droopy eyes and we think it's pretty to cut their little faces up and "fix" them. All non-deformed boy children are born with a foreskin. It doesn't seem too difficult to realized that it's supposed to be there, that maybe it exists for a reason.

[incognegro13x]

Originally Posted by marina

Having a droopy eye affects one's ability to see properly. Also, it's not like every child is born with droopy eyes and we think it's pretty to cut their little faces up and "fix" them. All non-deformed boy children are born with a foreskin. It doesn't seem too difficult to realized that it's supposed to be there, that maybe it exists for a reason.

I don't know if you can always apply that something is there for a reason. Most people grow in a set of 3rd molars (wisdom teeth) but they are redundant, have no purpose, reason and need to be removed. In this scenario as mentioned in the above it a matter of vanity and cultural existence.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by marina

Having a droopy eye affects one's ability to see properly. Also, it's not like every child is born with droopy eyes and we think it's pretty to cut their little faces up and "fix" them. All non-deformed boy children are born with a foreskin. It doesn't seem too difficult to realized that it's supposed to be there, that maybe it exists for a reason.

But what if cutting it off serves one better? Yeah, we have foreskins, but their value in modern times is questionable.

Hair had an evolutionary function at one point. It no longer does. We cut it in a way that past humans did not.

To the point, though: you say a foreskin is supposed to be there, but in modern societies where people tend to have sex with a pretty decent amount of partners, it seems that the function of the foreskin may actually serve to a man's detriment, given increased rates of STI infection and transmission. Given that the best time to circumcise is in infancy it would appear that this is a legitimate medical decision for parents to make, on par with a droopy eye.

You want your kid to see better and have prettier eyes. I don't want my kid to get the HIV or have an ugly penis. Not seeing the difference here.

[marina]

Originally Posted by incognegro13x

I don't know if you can always apply that something is there for a reason. Most people grow in a set of 3rd molars (wisdom teeth) but they are redundant, have no purpose, reason and need to be removed. In this scenario as mentioned in the above it a matter of vanity and cultural existence.

But wisdom tooth extraction is something we frequently choose to undergo as adults. Almost never do you find a healthy uncircumcised man who chooses to be circumcised later in life. Shouldn't that say something about the procedure we so willing subject delicate infants to?

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

You want your kid to see better and have prettier eyes. I don't want my kid to get the HIV or have an ugly penis. Not seeing the difference here.

We only think it's ugly because it's not in fashion right now. Also, I plan on teaching my children about safe sex, and not just because the statistics regarding circumcision and STI infection rates come from extremely small sample sizes and result in relatively minuscule differences. Safe sex is the best policy for all people, circumcised or not.

Circumcising your baby so his penis doesn't "look ugly" would be like subjecting your infant daughter to painful laser treatments so she never grows pubic hair just because the shaved look is in right now.

[incognegro13x]

[QUOTE=marina;703296]But wisdom tooth extraction is something we frequently choose to undergo as adults. Almost never do you find a healthy uncircumcised man who chooses to be circumcised later in life. Shouldn't that say something about the procedure we so willing subject delicate infants to?



QUOTE]

That is why I said it is a matter of vanity and/or cultural existence. Wisdom teeth can cause health problems circumcision does not.

[marina]

That is why I said it is a matter of vanity and/or cultural existence. Wisdom teeth can cause health problems circumcision does not.

So you agree that circumcision is fucking stupid?