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Old 02-03-2020, 01:19 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I have never laughed so hard and had chills

Y’all never cease to amaze me. I could feel him boiling. Thank you for causing that mask to slip!!! I was laughing so hard My neighbors are probably annoyed 🤣

On YOUR show, Chemda. He speaks to you that way. I definitely see his respect for women. Fucking YIKES.
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:24 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I wanted to backhand that gremlin through my speakers
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:12 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Chemda said EVERYTHING that I was thinking with the "I love that you think that" comment. So little introspection. Some of the real beauty on this show is people getting real about their weirdness. Everyone comes on and faces demons. Gootz just got angry about it. Each defense dug his hole deeper, and he can't see it.

Also, I love that Keith & Chemda can not only play good cop / bad cop, but often switch roles depending on the guest.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:25 PM   #84 (permalink)
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It just dawned on me that the Gootz is a more bitter, less self aware Mike Lawrence. Mike will play along with how goofy he is, but he can give as well as he takes instead of resorting to being pissy right away.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:28 PM   #85 (permalink)
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As someone mentioned earlier, the biggest thing about Gootz to me is just how stunted he is. Everything about him is juvenile. I don't just mean his interests or how he somehow keeps becoming friends with only young women, and I don't even mean it in a judgemental way (I mean, I obviously am judging him but you know what I mean). He never grew up, and he's flailing through it now.

He never stopped living with his parents, even in his 30s somehow they were able to "forbid" him from doing things, he threatens to beat up people over the internet, it doesn't seem like he's ever had anything close to an adult relationship (romantic and honestly I'm guessing platonic too), and of course he knows next to nothing about sex. The "hooking up" language stopped annoying me pretty quickly when I realized that's exactly how an awkward teenager would talk. When I was that age, that WAS what hooking up was. I'm not saying it isn't ridiculous that he talks like that as an adult, but it does kinda make sense to me, in a Gootz-y kinda way. I know he's got a red racing car as a bed. I know it!

All that to say none of his language or behaviour is excused. He's a misogynist creep that needs to grow the fuck up. And yes I would absolutely listen again if he was on. I just need notice so I can catch it live this time.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:36 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I'm a 36 year old woman, fyi, and have to say - What a gross episode.
Ray nailed it - at times, Chemda does make a snap judgement and then lose all sense of objectivity and irony whilst she attempts to nail someone to the narrative she has decided upon for them. Patrick Schroder is a great example of another guest that she does this with. It makes for unbearable listening.
I don't know much about Ray, I have only heard both his eps on KATG but I have listened to over 150 hours of Pat on podcasts and the way Chemda treats him really limits the potential of the ep.
Keith, Chemda and Wendy were ridiculing and mocking Ray for a good hour before he spoke up and it was still a pretty modest and fair reaction given the treatment he had endured.
As Chemda says herself - if its hysterical, its historical. So maybe she needs to do some reflecting and processing of why she takes such great offence to the fact that he hangs out with younger women.
Perhaps he does this because developmentally hes pretty young himself and would have way more in common with them then a woman his age.
There are guests with far more egregious traits that she happily overlooks or laughs WITH them about (not at them, like Ray endured).
Chemda's ignorance and bias makes for truly difficult listening at times.
Found Gootz's forum account!
Anyway though...what?? Are you confusing Pats or something? I don't remember ever getting that sense when he was on. I wouldn't even put him in the top 10 of guests that get a tough treatment. Shit, I'd say she's tougher on Will...
I mean hell, this was the first year Pat had been on and he's in the running for best guest. He opened the marathon. You think he'd do that if Chemda was treating him shitty?

Could you actually give examples of what you're talking about? Honest request, I'm not being facetious.
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I thought Ray was great. He held up well to all the hilarious ribbing, and had a good sense of humor about it. Great job. One of my fave new guests. Of course, everyone else was amazing, too. Super funny!!!
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I doubt I'm the first to say this but, Ray reminds me of Keith's dad. The way he lies about the simplest thing until pushed. For example titty fucking is blowing a raspberry or how hooking up is actually kissing.
Nah nnonononnoo
Ray is Billy Proceda on crack. Without the ability to laugh at himself and let others laugh at him. "My girlfriend was mad because I ate some girl out on a radio show but we were open so wtf" = "I was hanging around her for 2 years and we kinda hooked up once..when she was drunk and kissed but I never told her I liked her"
"we hooked up" = "We got into some finDom play but she never paid me"

They just make shit up and in live in this world that makes perfect sense in their head.
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Old 02-04-2020, 12:22 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Nah nnonononnoo

They just make shit up and in live in this world that makes perfect sense in their head.
wait
nevermind
I just proved myself wrong
this completely describes Father Malley.


I'M SORRY

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that said.
I would love for Ray to come back.
Billy. Not so much
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